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To: tinyowl

Opposing Trump doesn’t make you pro-establishment.

Last I checked Giuliani and Christie are establishment and were bashed as liberal candidates for president in the past. Have they turned Trump into an establishment liberal by endorsing him?


75 posted on 04/17/2016 9:34:04 PM PDT by JediJones (Looks like those clowns in Congress did it again. What a bunch of clowns.)
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To: JediJones

Unlike Cruz and the Bushes, Trump doesn’t have Rudy nor Chris on his campaign staff.


76 posted on 04/17/2016 9:45:16 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: JediJones

Opposing Trump puts you in bed with the establishment, Obama, the democrats the MSM, UN Muslims LaRaza etc. What the hell are you thinking? If it was as you think it is then why the hell are conservatives’ enemies trying to stop Trump while they are helping Cruz? That does not compute on any level.

If the situation was as you say they would be after Cruz as the most conservative, but none of our enemies are, why is that?


77 posted on 04/17/2016 9:53:34 PM PDT by Mechanicos (Trump is for America First. Cruz is for America Last. It's that simple.)
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To: JediJones
Opposing Trump doesn’t make you pro-establishment.

I didn't say that. There's nothing wrong at all with just opposing Trump. Nor does it make you pro establishment.

What makes you pro establishment is sleeping with the establishment.

Really has nothing to do with Trump ... don't blame Ted's problems on Trump. He's failing quite well on his own. Without the establishment behind him, even his chance as scamming the nomination would have long passed.

But don't bring Trump into it. Cruz sided with the establishment of his own accord.

This weekend's sob story in the Wash Post about the guy getting threats (there were none) from Trump supporters ... this is just the new propaganda line after uneducated Trump supporters and whining Trump. Either your pushing it, or you bought it.

Be clear: Cruz is destroying himself, it's not those pesky Trump supporters.

Were Cruz a true conservative and I mean all the way down through his character, not just his stated positions ... he'd be president in 8 years. It's over for him now.

I didn't want this. I wanted Cruz to be good. Nothing would make me happier than being 100% wrong. I just don't think I am ... and it's hard to tell how many of his remaining supporters are sincere, but they are really really stretching the bounds of realistically claiming that Cruz has not sold out (or wasn't always sold out.)

100 posted on 04/18/2016 4:10:25 PM PDT by tinyowl (A equals A)
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