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Why Cruz Could Beat Clinton
nationaljournal.com ^ | April 17, 2016 | Josh Kraushaar

Posted on 04/17/2016 5:42:24 PM PDT by John W

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To: JediJones

>Cruz’s statements and actions have been thoroughly consistent with what a true conservative would do

Do conservatives lie and slander like liberals? Because Ted Cruz does:

https://amp.twimg.com/v/745e21cb-199f-4ffb-8238-8c5f67810ef1


81 posted on 04/17/2016 11:12:13 PM PDT by RedWulf
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To: JediJones

>Trump has had Roger Stone on his payroll off and on since the ‘90s, who is a guy who tried to get the GOP party platform turned into pro-choice.

Reagan also had Roger Stone on his payroll.


82 posted on 04/17/2016 11:14:01 PM PDT by RedWulf
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To: Mechanicos

LOL, you’ve never seen Obama, Hillary or other liberals and democrats go after Cruz? Where have you been?

Supporting Cruz over Trump puts you in bed with conservatives like Mike Lee, Mark Levin, Ben Shapiro, Dana Loesch, Dennis Prager, David Limbaugh, James Woods, Jack Welch, Thomas Sowell, Pamela Geller, James Dobson, Brent Bozell, Phil Robertson, Greg Abbott, Scott Walker, Rick Perry, Louie Gohmert, Steve King, Bob Barr, Tom Tancredo, Ken Cuccinelli, Steve Lonegan...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endorsements_for_the_Republican_Party_presidential_primaries,_2016#Ted_Cruz


83 posted on 04/17/2016 11:17:23 PM PDT by JediJones (Looks like those clowns in Congress did it again. What a bunch of clowns.)
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To: RedWulf

Stone made his move on abortion after Reagan was out of office.


84 posted on 04/17/2016 11:18:43 PM PDT by JediJones (Looks like those clowns in Congress did it again. What a bunch of clowns.)
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To: JediJones
>Stone made his move on abortion after Reagan was out of office.

And Trump fired Stone. Stop playing association games. It's not an effective form of persuasion.

85 posted on 04/17/2016 11:20:16 PM PDT by RedWulf
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To: RedWulf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone#Career.2C_1980.E2.80.931992

“Stone and his first wife Ann E. W. Stone, whom he married in 1974, founded the group Republicans for Choice in 1989. They divorced in 1990.”


86 posted on 04/17/2016 11:21:26 PM PDT by JediJones (Looks like those clowns in Congress did it again. What a bunch of clowns.)
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To: RedWulf

Trump has fired and rehired Stone before. Stone has said in the past few weeks that he and Trump continue to talk at least every couple of weeks.


87 posted on 04/17/2016 11:22:29 PM PDT by JediJones (Looks like those clowns in Congress did it again. What a bunch of clowns.)
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To: RedWulf

It’s not me who’s playing association games. People keep insisting Cruz has “sold out” because he hired Neil Bush or this guy or that guy.

Manafort, who Trump just hired, worked on the Bush, Dole and McCain campaigns. If you don’t think that means Trump has sold out, then tell your compatriots to stop saying Cruz has sold out because he hired this one or that one.


88 posted on 04/17/2016 11:25:09 PM PDT by JediJones (Looks like those clowns in Congress did it again. What a bunch of clowns.)
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To: JediJones
>It’s not me who’s playing association games. People keep insisting Cruz has “sold out” because he hired Neil Bush or this guy or that guy.

Dude, Niel Bush is an actual criminal who stole a bunch of money from a bank he ran:

http://www.rationalrevolution.net/war/bush_family_and_the_s.htm

It doesn't get much more dirty and corrupt than that. How does a guy go from a “consistent conservative” to getting in bed with an actual bank robber? Niel Bush is the kind of GOPe scum that's gotten away with it for years and I can't imagine any kind of Conservative who would want him anywhere near his campaign unless taking him was part of the deal he cut to get GOPe support.

89 posted on 04/17/2016 11:36:14 PM PDT by RedWulf
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To: John W

satire


90 posted on 04/18/2016 3:48:54 AM PDT by rrrod (just an old guy with a gun in his pocket.l)
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To: JediJones

No we have not. A little Token stuff. Mostly fake. I have yet to hear Obama say about Cruz what he has said about Trump for example.

The point is this. The behavior of our enemy is inconsistent with what is claimed to be the argued negatives of Trump and the positives of Cruz. If anything they should want Trump with what the Cruz people are claiming is wrong with him.

Yet here we see the Establishment, Democrats, MSM. Foreign, Far left groups etc going after Trump while helping Cruz. That does not compute with what people like you are saying about Trump and Cruz.


91 posted on 04/18/2016 3:54:07 AM PDT by Mechanicos (Trump is for America First. Cruz is for America Last. It's that simple.)
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To: JediJones

By the way, of those you listed how many are, like Levin, Rush, etc paid by the Establishment for their support of Cruz? There are articles on here about that.

Why would honest conservatives support Cruz over Trump for money if the best was their goal. Seems like a lot of sell outs and Establishment on that list

Oh, and none of them listed are considered more Conservative then the conservative leaders backing Trump.


92 posted on 04/18/2016 4:03:25 AM PDT by Mechanicos (Trump is for America First. Cruz is for America Last. It's that simple.)
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To: lodi90
So immigration is a big thing to the Trump supporters. Trump supports touchback amnesty. In addition there was the time in one of the debates when Trump praised Rubio for the gang of eight, because it showed Rubio would negotiate.

Trump has also said he can't wait for the general so he can stop pandering to Republicans.

Can you tell me one position, other than eminent domain, that in the last 3 years Trump has not changed his position on?

93 posted on 04/18/2016 4:04:49 AM PDT by Iowa David (Cruz 2016 - Before it's too late)
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To: John W
Cruz has alienated a large part of his originally tenuous base - hard core conservatives loved him while the rest were more tepid but willing to support anyone to keep another Obama out of the WH. Then Trump came along and lit a fire under a whole lot of cross sections of the People. Cruz's antics since have resulted in a significant drop in his national support because he now confuses them - they want to win the WH and see trump as the only one actually in a winning position and he wants to stop Trump at all costs - even another loss of the WH. Hard to maintain respect for that.

When folks were so busy posting how many folks disliked Trump, they usually omitted the parts where it also showed that more people were willing to support him than any other candidate - despite the dislikes...

94 posted on 04/18/2016 4:44:36 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: John W

cruz can’t beat Trump and beating any one is now up in the air


95 posted on 04/18/2016 4:45:35 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....)
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To: John W

Cruz can’t win Republican votes so how does he win needed Democrat crossover votes - answer: He can’t and won’t but it makes no difference to the final hold outs in the Slick Teddie for President bunker.
They can’t name a single state that Slick Tedie who will be seen as just another Republican by Democrats, can win that Mittens Romney and lil Paulie didn’t.


96 posted on 04/18/2016 5:29:01 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: John W

What’s up with this?

“His re­cent re­fus­al to com­mit back­ing “per­son­hood” le­gis­la­tion that he pre­vi­ously cham­pioned is one tell­tale sign he’s already mod­er­at­ing his tone on po­lar­iz­ing so­cial is­sues. All told, Cruz’s gen­er­al-elec­tion mes­sage is un­likely to de­vi­ate much from that of re­cent Re­pub­lic­an nom­in­ees.”

Even hildabeast said the unborn were people who DO NOT have constitutional rights.

“The unborn person doesn’t have constitutional rights,” Mrs. Clinton said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/apr/3/hillary-clinton-unborn-person-has-no-constitutiona/

We have all heard that innocent people have been released from death row because their human DNA was not at the scene, nor were they at the scene of the crime.

If human DNA is admissible in COURT to prove one’s innocence or guilt logically the court would have to admit that a preborn human is a person. The preborn DNA UPON CONCEPTION could in fact be read and the adult characteristics determined.

I vote pro-life. If Cruz does not defend personhood, I might as well vote for the president of planned parenthood, which I won’t because there is a person, DNA and all, running for president on the Constitution Party ticket.


97 posted on 04/18/2016 6:06:22 AM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: huldah1776

BREAKING NEWS!!!
DARRELL CASTLE and SCOTT BRADLEY
2016 Constitution Party
Presidential and Vice-Presidential Nominees

http://www.constitutionparty.com/


98 posted on 04/18/2016 6:13:06 AM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: JediJones
Name me one thing a conservative who wanted to beat Trump in this primary would do differently than what Cruz has done.

He can not beat Trump without becoming the enemy, so the question is invalid. If a man is a priest, and yet he molests the alter boys - you can say 'he's been a consistent priest all his life' all you want, and everyone knows you're full of BS.

Cruz is not a conservative. He's a unit of human ambition run amok that chose to build his career in a certain way, create a certain reputation, build a set of bonafides.

He's a Bush Republican running in a conservative mask. Bush Republicans are establishment Republicans, the very same people rescuing his campaign, both of them joining in mutual desperation, scheming to save themselves ... no interest in the country so long as their own personal needs and ambitions are on the line.

It's long, long past time for Ted to step aside, get out of the way of the will of Republican voters and help Trump, not get under his feet. He would have done this if were truly Mr. Anti Washington Cartel.

A True conservative would have known how to lose, regroup, help America in the meantime - if Cruz were truly conservative the 2 of them could have achieved a lot more than Trump will achieve on his own ... and had he done that, put his ambitions second, he could have realized his ambitions later - it's called delayed gratification - it's a conservative value though perhaps not a political one. Instead he bet it all, now, at any cost. I can't predict the future, but I suspect he lost the best entirely.

Trump has revealed a lot ... about a lot of organizations, and a lot of individuals. Sunlight is a stronger disinfectant than so called pure conservatism, because the latter can be faked or sold. Sunlight is pretty much just ... sunlight.

99 posted on 04/18/2016 3:59:14 PM PDT by tinyowl (A equals A)
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To: JediJones
Opposing Trump doesn’t make you pro-establishment.

I didn't say that. There's nothing wrong at all with just opposing Trump. Nor does it make you pro establishment.

What makes you pro establishment is sleeping with the establishment.

Really has nothing to do with Trump ... don't blame Ted's problems on Trump. He's failing quite well on his own. Without the establishment behind him, even his chance as scamming the nomination would have long passed.

But don't bring Trump into it. Cruz sided with the establishment of his own accord.

This weekend's sob story in the Wash Post about the guy getting threats (there were none) from Trump supporters ... this is just the new propaganda line after uneducated Trump supporters and whining Trump. Either your pushing it, or you bought it.

Be clear: Cruz is destroying himself, it's not those pesky Trump supporters.

Were Cruz a true conservative and I mean all the way down through his character, not just his stated positions ... he'd be president in 8 years. It's over for him now.

I didn't want this. I wanted Cruz to be good. Nothing would make me happier than being 100% wrong. I just don't think I am ... and it's hard to tell how many of his remaining supporters are sincere, but they are really really stretching the bounds of realistically claiming that Cruz has not sold out (or wasn't always sold out.)

100 posted on 04/18/2016 4:10:25 PM PDT by tinyowl (A equals A)
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