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Ted Cruz risks primary disqualification in N.J. resulting from charges of ballot access fraud
gloucestercitynews.net ^

Posted on 04/10/2016 8:21:55 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

Ted Cruz risks primary disqualification in New Jersey resulting from charges of ballot access fraud. A primary ballot disqualification hearing is scheduled by the Secretary of State for Monday, April 11 at 9:00 a.m. in Mercerville, New Jersey.

Washington D.C. Law Professor Victor Williams charges that Ted Cruz fraudulently certified his constitutional eligibility for office to gain ballot access. Williams demands that Cruz be disqualified from several late-primary ballots: "Cruz committed ballot access fraud in each state when he falsely swore that he was a 'natural born' American citizen." Cruz was born in Calgary, Canada and held his resulting Canadian citizenship until May 2014. Cruz is a naturalized (not natural born) American citizen.

Williams' fraud charges had quick effect in New Jersey. Rather than accepting Cruz's ballot petition when filed last week, the Secretary of State ( Kim Guadagno) scheduled the unusual Administrative Law hearing for April 11. The Canadian-born Cruz must prove that he did not falsely certify his eligibility for office.

Cruz's ballot eligibility is also being challenged in California, Maryland, Montana, Nebraska, Oregon, South Dakota, and Washington.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Jersey
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To: smoothsailing

Ricky was comical, but Lucy put them all to shame with her talent.


301 posted on 04/10/2016 5:14:17 PM PDT by Theodore R. (I shudder to think what the American people will do on November 8, 2016.)
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To: Mollypitcher1
"CITIZEN is NOT the same thing as NATURAL BORN CITIZEN in the Constitution. A DISTINCTION WAS MADE BY THE FRAMERS. A president and Vice President MUST BE a Natural Born Citizen which is BOTH PARENTS CITIZENS at the time of his birth AND Born in the USA."

So when did Obama's daddy get citizenship ?

" Barack Obama's father, Barack Obama Sr., was of Kenyan citizenship when the President was born. His father was in the United States to study as a foreign exchange student, where he met the President's mother. The President's mother was a natural born US citizen from Kansas. President Obama could not have been a natural born citizen because in the Constitution (article 2 section 1) it requires both parents to be US citizens:"

the laws only apply to citizens, not the RULERS over citizens, they can assasinate foriegn rulers or have ambasadors murdered, burn e-mails to cover it up, cheat on taxes etc, etc....unless other politicians have power over them....it is an oligarchy not a constitutional government. If the GOP wants Cruz to be prez this will fizzle

302 posted on 04/10/2016 5:15:40 PM PDT by KTM rider
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To: Elyse
As a US citizen Cruz’s mother was under the jurisdiction of the United States. It doesn’t matter what Canada’s law was, they can’t take US citizenship away from your child by automatically bestowing Canadian citizenship on them. US law is all that matters here, and that law bestowed US citizenship on him at birth.

Best explanation of the matter I have seeen

303 posted on 04/10/2016 5:18:45 PM PDT by Theodore R. (I shudder to think what the American people will do on November 8, 2016.)
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To: winner3000
If it is true, when was the naturalization done?

What documentation did he produce when his mother reinterred the US and under what conditions? What documentation did he use to enter school, get a driving license, register for the draft? You have seen none of those documents.

304 posted on 04/10/2016 5:19:13 PM PDT by itsahoot (Trump is a fumble mouthed blowhard that can't finish a sentence, but he will finish a term.)
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To: Elyse
When you are born a US citizen you don’t get citizenship papers.

You just blow this stuff out your rectum hoping no one has a clue.

305 posted on 04/10/2016 5:21:10 PM PDT by itsahoot (Trump is a fumble mouthed blowhard that can't finish a sentence, but he will finish a term.)
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To: USNBandit

his mother was listed as a canadian citizen and was a registered voter there. so was his dad.


306 posted on 04/10/2016 5:26:07 PM PDT by HWGruene (REMEMBER THE ALAMO! Really, no kidding.)
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To: silverleaf

Actually what Cruz wants or thinks has very little to do with it. If you think about this it makes sense, the USSC has said that citizenship is a matter of law from each country. If Canada chooses to recognize everyone born in Canada as a citizen, then it doesn’t matter what anyone else thinks. All that matters is US law. It would be inappropriate to vary the definition as it applies in the US depending on what other countries laws may be.

I know a lot of people here get all twisted up over these things, but you can be a natural born American and still be a citizen of many other countries at the same time with no control over it. With America attracting people from all over the world its going to be the case more and more. Take an example of an Algerian man who moved as a teenager with his family to France, who then as an adult moved to the US. Further, say there is an Indian born woman who moved to UK as a teen before moving here for education, where she met the man. They marry and become naturalized US citizens. They start a family, and take a day trip to Canada but get in a car accident in Canada. To save the baby, doctors induce labor at 7 months. I know this sounds far fetched but its just an example and not really an impossible one (Cruz’ living family members have similarly convoluted journeys). So this baby born prematurely would technically hold American, Canadian, French, Algerian, Indian and British citizenships simultaneously, depending on the laws in each country (some do not accept matrilineal descent, others not only allow it but insist it can never be renounced which means that even great great great grandchildren will technically be recognized as citizens of a foreign land). It is impossible for a person to control what other countries choose to recognize.

To keep it simple, I see it as natural born means you acquired it at birth per the Constitution and naturalized means you are given citizenship through other means, as a matter of law passed by Congress which can change over time. Freepers are arguing it obviously, but seems to me Cruz was natural born. He did not have to take action to obtain US citizenship, and no act if Congress applies to his citizenship. US citizenship is his by birthright born to American parents. The other countries laws don’t really matter to the question of whether he is natural born. He may be natural born citizen of many countries. To people who say he is naturalized I ask, under which process of naturalization created by congress did Cruz obtain citizenship? Did he have a swearing-in ceremony? Did he fill out any forms to apply for it?


307 posted on 04/10/2016 5:35:50 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: Theodore R.
Absolutely, she's one of my alltime favorites! And what a beauty she was!


308 posted on 04/10/2016 5:36:37 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Under Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution Ted Cruz was ineligible to be president in 2000 as he was only 29 years old.

If there should be a court ruling in 2016 declaring Senator Cruz ineligible on grounds that his birth in Canada disqualifes him from natural born citzenship, then so be it.

Thus far there has been no such ruling.


309 posted on 04/10/2016 5:42:10 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: WENDLE

It doesn’t appear to be futile for the 545 Republican Convention delegates that Senator Cruz has amassed.


310 posted on 04/10/2016 5:48:06 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: CodeToad

Made up quote


311 posted on 04/10/2016 5:48:50 PM PDT by FewsOrange
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To: RoosterRedux

I wouldn’t bother running in NJ at all anyway. Why should any conservative Republican bother?


312 posted on 04/10/2016 5:51:44 PM PDT by JediJones (Lyin' Trump, Little Donald, Low-Energy Trump, Pathological Trump...lots of projection going on here!)
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To: smoothsailing

If he haa a valid U.S. Passport then he’s a U.S. Citizen. Under federal law, a passport is considered primary evidence of citizenship and identity.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/42/435.407


313 posted on 04/10/2016 5:54:32 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus

But he can’t be nominated ( rule 40 b will never be changed now) All those delegates are prohibited in rule 16 from voting!!! Trump get a majority of the eligible votes with 850!!! Don’t you see? Get a lawyer!! ( Trump has an army of them led by Michael Cohen). This is over!! Go Trump.


314 posted on 04/10/2016 5:55:42 PM PDT by WENDLE (I guess)
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To: monkeyshine

This is a lot of speculation and there are a lot of things we do not know and need to know

WAS HIS MOTHER AN AMERICAN CITIZEN....AT THE TIME HE WAS BORN IN CANADA??

That is a big assumption you are making based on what..., and most people are making .....thay you saw her ‘birth certificate” on the internet? CBS New right? The same folks that published the Bush AWOL papers on the internet?

and there are questions about his whole family history that need to be absolutely vetted or we have another Obama

and any man who would deliberately hide or commit fraud about his life history is not trustworthy to be the POTUS and any man who has a big enough network of dark support to assist in hiding or suppressing the truth should NOT be the POTUS

For a guy is so big and smart about using “the rules”
to worm his way to the nomination, he and his parents dont seem to have used “the rules” to register his birth as an American when he was born abroad. Because what if ....his mother didn’t register him at birth as an American because she had become a Canadian citizen? And given up her American citizenship? A completely innocuous action back then- since her husband was Canadian- and not thinking that her child would ever want to become POTUS

Now the immigration records from when Ted was brought to the to the US would prove if his mother was still a US citizen and registered him as such- but as I understand they immigration records and those of his mother are also sealed

If everything in his past records and those of his mother was open and transparent we could figure it out and so could a court

But in this case .....HE IS NOT AN HONEST PERSON and NOT JUST ABOUT HIS EXTRAMARITAL SEX LIFE


315 posted on 04/10/2016 5:57:13 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: itsahoot

Did you get citizenship papers when you were born? I got a county birth certificate which I would have gotten if I was a citizen or a non-citizen. Many non-citizens are born in American hospitals.


316 posted on 04/10/2016 5:59:24 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: HarleyLady27

bkmk


317 posted on 04/10/2016 5:59:43 PM PDT by kanawa
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To: Nero Germanicus

The validity of a U.S. Passport is only as good as the documentation presented to obtain it. Since Cruz birth records are sealed, we don’t know what he used to obtain a passport, or if it’s legit. We should rather know before he’s the nominee, not after.


318 posted on 04/10/2016 6:04:20 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: nevergore
The guy is a constitutional attorney, he should know.....If he had any doubt he should have settled it before he ran....

He does know, he just doesn't want you to know. Judges usually accept a criminals version of a story as well, right?

319 posted on 04/10/2016 6:06:13 PM PDT by itsahoot (Trump is a fumble mouthed blowhard that can't finish a sentence, but he will finish a term.)
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To: mak5
That is the law, it has been the law since the first congress, and it comports with the Constitution.

It comports with your opinion and that is all it does.

320 posted on 04/10/2016 6:07:49 PM PDT by itsahoot (Trump is a fumble mouthed blowhard that can't finish a sentence, but he will finish a term.)
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