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Louisiana woman, 25, makes history as FIRST female to enlist in the US Army Infantry
dailymail.co.uk ^ | April 9, 2016 | ANNETA KONSTANTINIDES

Posted on 04/10/2016 7:26:05 AM PDT by PROCON

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To: Husker8877

INCOMING!!


61 posted on 04/10/2016 10:23:37 AM PDT by Husker8877
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To: DMZFrank
I am a grunt who saw hard fighting on the DMZ against the very tough NVA
I am a cannon cocker who saw hard fighting on the DMZ ... my hat's off to you.
62 posted on 04/10/2016 10:43:49 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: DesertRhino

My daughter’s ship saw a rise in pregnancies right before WESPAC


63 posted on 04/10/2016 11:04:23 AM PDT by billphx
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To: DesertRhino

You nailed it. Physical limitations are trivial compared to the impact on unit cohesiveness, which can be tolerated to a point in combat support units, but not at the tip of the spear.


64 posted on 04/10/2016 11:08:58 AM PDT by LambSlave
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To: oh8eleven

Welcome home brother. I loved the redlegs. Forward observers and FDC’s could perform miracles of accuracy and responsiveness from both battalion and corp level. Our FO could adjust by sound better than many could visually. They saved my outfit on many an occasion, once with a TOT shoot that broke up a NVA assault on our NDP.. I literally owe my life to guys like you.


65 posted on 04/10/2016 11:12:41 AM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: oh8eleven

Welcome home brother. I loved the redlegs. Forward observers and FDC’s could perform miracles of accuracy and responsiveness from both battalion and corp level. Our FO could adjust by sound better than many could visually. They saved my outfit on many an occasion, once with a TOT shoot that broke up a NVA assault on our NDP.. I literally owe my life to guys like you.


66 posted on 04/10/2016 11:13:00 AM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: DesertRhino
That was because despite todays hit movies, sniping is something you can quickly teach and use, and it is very useful in a defensive war, with huge piles of rubble that were formerly great cities. You could shove a Nagant in a woman’s hand, put her in a building with food, and wish her luck.

Key word: "defensive". Women can do OK in an environment where they aren't going anywhere, just holding a position, and where men did the work of bringing her gear and supplies to her position.

The women snipers also knew that, if they allowed the Germans to get to them, things would get unpleasant. They had nowhere to run, and in the Russian army if you tried to run, you would get shot.

67 posted on 04/10/2016 11:13:35 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: Leaning Right

On the bright side, it means we are less likely to intervene in places like Iraq.


68 posted on 04/10/2016 11:22:58 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Husker8877

No one of good will is unduly denigrating this woman. I am sure she is a patriot who loves her country, and that she will do her best. Most of us are trying to explain as to how the ultimate end of this POLICY will serve to weaken the combat efficiency and ability of ground units whose primary task is to close with, engage and destroy similar enemy units, particularly those that can project a comparable level of battlefield combat power as the US.


69 posted on 04/10/2016 11:24:53 AM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: DMZFrank

I understand your position.


70 posted on 04/10/2016 12:40:22 PM PDT by Husker8877
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To: Husker8877

I find it interesting that we are all agreed that men and women cannot compete equally and fairly in professional sports such as TENNIS and GOLF, but we are now saying that this doesn’t apply to the gravest of human activities, warfare, particularly ground combat? If speed, strength, power and endurance has any place at all it is there. Women will always generally be lesser in all those areas, and it is from the general population that replacements must be procured.

The few exceptions are not worth the logistical burden that their accommodation would require.


71 posted on 04/10/2016 1:30:12 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: PROCON

Stop complaining. It’s historic! Obama’s favorite catch phrase.


72 posted on 04/10/2016 1:55:52 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: PROCON; markomalley; DYngbld; TADSLOS; xsrdx; big'ol_freeper; Mark17; mikefive; JDoutrider; ...

Active Duty ping.


73 posted on 04/10/2016 3:20:01 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Husker8877

The effect of PC means she WILL pass. Men will die needlessly.


74 posted on 04/10/2016 4:30:03 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?.)
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To: DMZFrank
Welcome home brother.
Back at 'ya.
75 posted on 04/10/2016 4:37:56 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: PROCON

She doesn’t look particularly fit, and being that broad across the beam, her lack of upper body strength is going to be a major disadvantage.


76 posted on 04/10/2016 4:41:56 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: DesertRhino

Women in ships was a dumbass idea right FRom the get-go

In 1994, USS Eisenhower (CVN-69), was one of the first combat vessels to have women assigned. The “Ike” soon became known as “The Loveboat;” there were, “officially,” 15 pregnancies. Scuttlebutt has it that the female pregnancy rate was on the order of 35%.

As you can tell, I am hardover opposed to women in ships!

The military mission is to kill people and break things.

There is no way women in combat improve our military’s ability to kill people and break things.

Support roles; YES!

Combat roles; NO!


77 posted on 04/10/2016 7:52:04 PM PDT by Taxman ((H. L. Mencken correctly observed: Government is actually the worst failure of civilized man.))
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To: PROCON

Back a few years ago, Natick Labs conducted a study of troops in Afghanistan, and they found the average combat load carried by each soldier was 63 pounds... That’s the K pot, body armor, weapon, ammo, water, etc totaling approximately 36% of the soldiers body weight.

The average “approach march” load out is 96 pounds or 55% of his weight. An “emergency approach” loadout is on average 127 pounds or 71% of his body weight. A 60mm mortar section leader would carry 142 pounds on emergency approach which is 97% of his body weight.

She is in for a serious reality check especially @ Ft Benning during the summer.

My bet is she chapters out or reclasses before the fourth week.


78 posted on 04/10/2016 7:57:48 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Democrats... BETRAYING America since 1828.)
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To: Leaning Right

Just like Ranger school was watered down for those females to pass.


79 posted on 04/10/2016 8:01:06 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Democrats... BETRAYING America since 1828.)
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To: PROCON
A very big problem is . . . .

The politically correct Pentagon, Congress, and Selective Service System uses the women who volunteer as a precedent to say, "Oh, then ALL women must."

"If some young women want to, then ALL young women must enlist, because this is 'fairness.'"

80 posted on 04/10/2016 8:04:47 PM PDT by John Leland 1789
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