Posted on 04/09/2016 10:30:28 AM PDT by Kaslin
This yearning probably reflects the fact that He identified with us by adopting humanity in the first place--so why not our particular flavor of humanity?
Old joke...Johnny, now having turned 17, driving and wanting to “borrow” Dad’s car, was getting no where because Dad wanted him to get a haircut. “Come on dad! What’s wrong with long hair? Tommy wears his long, the girls really like it, and besides, even Jesus had long hair!” “Well, son” said good ol’ Dad. “You’re right. Jesus did have long hair, and guess what? Jesus walked!”
That's certainly an answer, one that is validated by His verbal response to His mother at Cana. However, one could posit additional reasons with respect to knowing and implementing the Father's will, which was after all the key reason for His ministry in the first place. If He determined that God wanted Joseph dead, He wouldn't intervene. In that sense, He couldn't raise Joseph because, as He claimed explicitly, He only did what the Father told Him.
At age 12, in the Temple, Jesus rhetorically asked His human parents, “Did you now know that I must be in my Father’s house?” or “... doing my Father’s business?” (same Greek root, “oikos.”)
Up to that point, the Bible says nothing regarding His self-understanding, so anything we might believe is largely speculative.
Whatever a sinless person would experience, Jesus would have. This could have included some kind of infant consciousness at a level that sinners do not possess.
Sounds interesting to talk about, though I’d class this movie as more of a theological proposition for debate than as a rendering of a bible story.
“I’m sure Mary and Joseph knew of His uniqueness because they were visited by angels and told who He was. When Jesus went to Canaan for the wedding, when asked to make wine, He said it was not yet His time. His life was planned out to the letter in the OT and this wasn’t covered.”
BUT - Jesus DID perform the miracle. I’ve always like that story. I know how my mom made me do stuff that was right, and pushed me, even if I didn’t want to. I wonder if Jesus, being a man, was a bit afraid of setting everything in motion. Or as God, even though it wasn’t God’s wish to do the miracle, he was requested by a human and so he did it. Sort of like the prayers we offer today. And in the OT God did listen and change things sometimes. Like Lot (iirc) haggling with God about “okay if I can find 100 rightous men...okay, how about 50.....okay, how about just one!?”
Although God, already knowing that he would not find even one righteous, it wasn’t so much haggling as trying to prove a point to Lot. So a bad example I guess.
And why didn’t Jesus help this or that or the other person? Again, not in scope for His earthly ministry. God has an overall plan. From character witness of God, the plan does not fail to offer salvation to any soul that would be willing, though the offer is very widely refused among humanity.
A simpler explanation is Jesus has always known God’s plan and followed it. Several incidents in the Gospel support this, not the least where he “undid” the cut-off ear because it would have interfered with God’s plan.
We know very little of his early life. But nothing says he was not without knowledge. Fact is he was in constant contact with God until the moment he took on our sins on the cross.
So its very possible he did miracles when young and did not do others according to God’s plan.
Sometimes God will grant a prayer for blessing to someone who isn’t quite ready to use the blessing constructively. Also to prove that He is gracious always and the problem isn’t on His end. The formal ministry of Christ hadn’t begun. He wasn’t preaching to crowds assembled to hear or watch.
Or, because it would have interfered with God’s plan.
LOL! Me too!
Well at one level that is a nonsensical statement.
But on another level we could speak of a formal plan and an informal plan, and something in line with the second might not be in line with the first. God might have conducted His affairs in that way to show the difference between intentions and results.
My son told the joke about the Last Supper. Jesus gets the bill, looks at it and says “This bill is huge. Okay - which one of you guys ordered the wine!?”
And then Judas came back breathlessly and said here, don’t worry, we have 30 pieces of silver more now.
(One bad joke deserves another)
Diabolical crap.
Yes, agreed. His human nature however his physical features would be Jewish.
“I haven’t seen the movie but think it may come from a group of books called “The Lost Books of the Bible. “
I’ve heard that as well.
It’s apostasy.
Movies about Jesus are inherently problematic. When the script is based on made up stuff, even more so.
Next they will do the New Age Jesus who went to India as a youngster.
It is inevitable as the religious movies are shown to be profitable that the more typical film-types will move in to get their hand in the pie.
This movie us based on a book by Satanic author Anne Rice.
Let’s get real, people.
I found the portrayal of Jesus in Ben Hur, 1959 version, to be one of the most moving ever in a movie. I could never quite see Max von Sydow or Jeffrey Hunter as my Savior. IMHO, Ben Hur is the best movie ever made, with Lawrence of Arabia a close second. The sixties produced a few worthy mentions, but it’s been pretty much a wasteland ever since. IMHO.
I thought Mel Gibson’s portrayal pretty good. The Passion of the Christ.
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