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“Vassalage is all about subordination. Ireland was subordinate to no power between 1948 and 1972”

Until the 1920’s Ireland was oppressed by the English who stole their land, banned their language, suppressed their religion, and killed their people. You keep avoiding those facts. The EU has killed exactly NO ONE in Ireland. Ireland can leave the EU any damn time it wants and not a single shot need be fired. You keep ignoring these facts.

Nothing you can possibly say will change what is factual. Ireland is MORE FREE now than it was in 1920. That’s just a fact.

“Again, there is no commonality between the USSR and the USA working against the Third Reich and the IRB working with the native Irish communists”

Of course there is. We worked hand in glove with communists to kill Nazis. The Irish worked with communists to overthrow Englishman. Some Irish were even willing to work with the Nazis against the English. Those are just facts. If the USSR had invaded and occupied much of the U.S.A. in 1939 we would gladly have accepted Nazi help to get rid of them. If you doubt that for even a single second, then you have no understanding of history whatsoever. Desperate nations will form friendships and alliance with anyone who can help them. That’s just a fact.

The EU doesn’t have a single tank, or warplane, or warship, or soldier in Ireland. Not one. The English had thousands of soldiers and auxiliaries. That’s just a fact.

I do admire your persistence; your demeanor is another story.

Again, it’s not fact that Ireland is more free than back in 1920. The Irish MPs could write laws in Westminster, in a government that had separation of powers. No Irish MEP can write any law and only unelected bureaucrats can write laws in Brussels; therefore under the EU, Ireland is less free. Ireland was technically most free between 1948 and 1972, when it was, as the 1916 proclamation stated as a goal for the country (at least ostensibly), “sovereign and indefeasible” in terms of the goals of “the right of the Irish people to the ownership of Ireland and to the unfettered control of Irish destinies”—although the Irish government’s micromanagement of domestic industry (thanks to the influence of the communists that were involved in that country’s politics) depressed the economy.

As for alleged “oppression”, that is for the vast majority left-wing revisionism; the Anglo-Irish War was fomented by the aggression of Sinn Féin and the IRA. Arguably, the aggression on the nationalists’ part was successful thanks to the freedom gained via the Anglo-Irish Treaty, but ultimately they are responsible for the commencement of the bloodshed. (If “Black Lives Matter” follows through on its threats against police in the USA, that would mirror what the IRA did to Royal Irish Constabulary officers at the start of the conflict in 1919. Going to condone that too if it happens, or are BLM also “oppressed”?)

The EU’s economic war is asymmetrical. They sent a Soviet-style “troika” to dictate Ireland’s domestic fiscal policy. Ireland’s sovereign budget was reviewed by the Bundestag (in which Ireland has no representation whatsoever) back in 2011 and possibly afterwards (when it could be better covered up). Now given the EU’s aggression in this manner without a military, what would they do against their own member states if they did have a standing military?

Also, I am a former resident of Ireland. I have been keeping abreast of things for a long while. It is you who is trying to change what is factual.