Posted on 04/03/2016 4:43:33 AM PDT by VitacoreVision
Today the airwaves are full of false reports from experts telling us how the Republican National Convention might become open and might nominate a new name. Karl Rove claims that this might happen. Respected pundits speculate about it. But it simply will never happen and let me explain why.
To put another name into play will not only require the betrayal of Donald Trump, it will require the betrayal of Ted Cruz. And while the Republican Party will not likely survive the former it certainly cannot survive both.
Here’s how it works. Rule 40b requires that a candidate must have a plurality of delegates in eight states to be nominated. This is the so called “Ron Paul Rule” put in place by Mitt Romney, John Sununu, Ben Ginsberg and others seeking to block Ron Paul from being nominated in 2012. When Ron Paul actually closed in on a majority in eight states they contested some of his duly elected delegates and threw them off the floor of the RNC. This so saddened the Governor of one of the states involved, seeing these GOP young people disenfranchised, that he protested the action and walked out with these young people.
At present, only two candidates have reached the eight state threshold for the 2016 RNC. Donald Trump and Ted Cruz. Under the current rules they are the only candidates who can be nominated. Thus reports today that some will vote for Rubio on the first ballot or that Kasich is surging among delegates is irrelevant. If delegates vote for a candidate that is not nominated, and because of State GOP rules some will do so, they won’t be counted. Thus Sharon Johnson of Arizona voted for Pat Buchanan in 1992 but it did nothing.
Ahhh, you say. But what if the Rules Committee votes to change Rule 40b? What if they changed it to a one state requirement to nominate? Or to no states and allow nominations on the floor?
To do that the Rules Committee would have to be controlled by delegates who want that to happen.
After the Rachel Maddow show a few weeks ago the media seems to better understand that the delegates pledged to Trump are not really people who necessarily support Trump. Many of them support Cruz. Maybe even most of them. And some support Rubio or Bush or Romney or Ryan.
But it is safe to say that a majority of the delegates on the Rules Committee support either Trump or Cruz. They do not support Karl Rove or Ben Ginsburg or John Sununu or other GOP establishment Republicans. (Monday read a post on this blog about why the establishement fears an outsider.)
To win this battle the establishment Republicans must not only betray Donald Trump they must also betray Ted Cruz. They must convince a majority of the delegates on the Rules Committee to open the convention to someone else. Someone not Trump and not Cruz.
It ain’t gonna happen.
Ted Cruz will not order his delegates serving on the Rules Committee to vote to open the convention to another name. He will want to keep this as a decision between he and Trump. It is his only chance to win.
The corrupt GOP establishment may eventually do the unthinkable. Force the unity of the Republican Party, with them on the outside looking in.
Video:
How the GOP will now rob Donald Trump! SHOCKINGLY SIMPLE.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9hGsrOD8hM
Trump and Cruz would be the 2016 remake of Reagan and Bush the elder.
One thing a Great leader needs is courage. To call out your enemy in a election rally in front of thousands of adoring fans is one thing, but standing on the floor of the Senate and calling them out is courage.
My thought is that they’ll work something out between themselves before the convention in order that something doesn’t get “worked out” against them.
scooby321 wrote:
“Pitch Fork time
I heard it worked in Tennessee”
Any updates?
I heard about the delegate shenanigans late last night...
Some of the cult still haven’t figured out that if their boy gets the nomination he will need the Cruz supporters to have any chance in the general election. They better get their minds right and act civilly.
Since Trump has many thousands more at his rallies and 300 more delegates at this time, I'd say it's the other way around.
If Cruz manages to get the nomination without a plurality of states won, he's going to need the support of Trump voters to have any chance in the general.
Let me get this straight, you want a 'conservative' to run against Cruz, the most conservative senator in the senate, but your choice for president is a NYC liberal.
You have got to be the biggest moron posting on FR.
Trumpets don't care how they sound. They're just imitating their master.
Not anything worse than what has been thrown around the internet about Trump from Cruz people. The two sides burned down bridges. There would be a lot of distrust if they joined together.
They'll have to quit chugging the TrumpAid for that to happen.
Yes, Cruz can win and after a huge victory in my home state of WI.on Tuesday, will have the momentum.
The vitriol toward Cruz here at FR by some makes me wonder what has happened to this site that used to be my go to place for Conservatism.
I’ve been here for a long time and have never seen anything like this. One thing is for sure: If certain Freepers didn’t see Cruz as a real threat to Trump’s chances of being the nominee, they wouldn’t be lashing out at him with such vigor.
I do hope they could work things out, but instead Cruz doubles down in Trump attacks and some of the most ardent Cruz supporters just have no interest in backing Trump. It goes the other way as well. So those folks might have a nervous breakdown if Cruz and Trump put aside the vitriol and worked together.
I call it the "Trump Effect"....a type of projection...some have turned into outright fascists...
Because Trump treats his opponents with disdain, disrespect, vitriol and hyperbolic remarks, it's OK to treat Cruz supporters with the same regard...
No civil discourse, no polite disagreements, no respect, just hate unending
At the end of the day, if Trump wins the nomination, I will vote for him to beat Hillary...
How many Trump supporters would do the same for Cruz ?
And then we woke up to the fraud Cruz is. I don’t give a care what you do. I won’t vote Cruz in the general. No thinking about it and Cruz fans don’t dictate who I vote for. You are pathetic if others control your vote. Pretty much a loser in my book. No surprise you are a cruzaphile.
F you! Go play with your candidate. Everyone else does Cruz. You might as well to.
Sigh.
Logical fallacy: ad hominem. Changing the subject. Moving the goalposts.
I didn’t change the subject. You asked me a question and I answered it. The answer was no. Maybe you missed that.
Then I asked you one. You didn’t answer it.
But I know why you didn’t answer it so I’m not surprised.
Sigh^2.
In the generals I have voted against more candidates than candidates that I have voted for. Appears that it will be the same this year.
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