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Electoral Map Is a Reality Check to Trump’s Bid
NY Times ^ | 04-02-2016 | JONATHAN MARTIN and NATE COHN

Posted on 04/02/2016 10:58:26 AM PDT by NRx

Donald J. Trump’s presidential candidacy has stunned the Republican Party. But if he survives a late revolt by his rivals and other leaders to become the party’s standard-bearer in the general election, the electoral map now coming into view is positively forbidding.

In recent head-to-head polls with one Democrat whom Mr. Trump may face in the fall, Hillary Clinton, he trails in every key state, including Florida and Ohio, despite her soaring unpopularity ratings with swing voters.

In Democratic-leaning states across the Rust Belt, which Mr. Trump has vowed to return to the Republican column for the first time in nearly 30 years, his deficit is even worse: Mrs. Clinton leads him by double digits in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

Mr. Trump is so negatively viewed, polls suggest, that he could turn otherwise safe Republican states, usually political afterthoughts because of their strong conservative tilt, into tight contests. In Utah, his deep unpopularity with Mormon voters suggests that a state that has gone Republican every election for a half-century could wind up in play. Republicans there pointed to a much-discussed Deseret News poll last month, showing Mrs. Clinton with a narrow lead over Mr. Trump, to argue that the state would be difficult for him.

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To: mkjessup

Sorry that folks are waking up to the reality of what a weak candidate your Tee Vee reality star is:

He can’t handle basic interviews (three positions on abortion in one day)
He doesn’t know much (look up his nuclear triad debate “answer” for cringeworthy awfulness)
He repels women voters. They hate him and he lacks the self control and judgement to stop giving them more reasons to hate him. (And he’s running against a women.)


121 posted on 04/02/2016 12:54:03 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (Islamic Immigration is Treason.)
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To: Dagnabitt
You might ponder this:

Trump is the biggest thing for America since Reagan. The Republicans should embrace him and run with it. And if they actually believed in their own conservative platform, they’d do it.

Trump’s positions are rebuilding the Reagan coalition. I don’t see this happening with Cruz. And any RINO they put in will be a sure-loser.

147 posted on 3/31/2016, 6:51:42 PM by Jim Robinson


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3416008/posts?page=147#147


122 posted on 04/02/2016 12:55:20 PM PDT by mkjessup (Trump is kicking the ass of the GOPe, RINOs & the media. Don't like him? He must be kicking YOUR ass)
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To: IrishBrigade

You don’t get many comments, even on conservative sites, about our demographic collapse as it relates to mass LEGAL immigration & the end of the conservative voting base, even though it is happening right before our eyes. It’s not a difficult concept to grasp, but I’m starting to think it’s a difficult psychological concept for people to come to terms with.

After all, aside from Rome, to some extent, it’s not a common occurrence to see a people (us) being replaced by “other peoples” who have radically different cultures & voting preferences to the native population.

So you get these convoluted explanations about the situation we find ourselves in, but never mentioning the obvious: the new demographics. I always tell people: look at California & how they vote. That’s the very near future for the USA in general, especially as it pertains to the national election.


123 posted on 04/02/2016 12:55:55 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: redangus

Talk about Delusional. Supporting another DC Insider Ivy League lawyer who has been an Establishment attorney most of his life is married to the Establishment and only created the image of being a conservative when he hitched his wagon to the tea party is hoping for a different result THIS Time.


124 posted on 04/02/2016 12:56:11 PM PDT by Mechanicos (Attend a Trump Rally and get to "Punch a Commie for Mommy.")
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To: mkjessup; NRx

LOLOLOLOLOL.

GOOD to see you’re keeping atop of all newsworthy matters.

Thanks very much for keeping me informed.


125 posted on 04/02/2016 12:58:02 PM PDT by onyx (You're here posting, so sign-up to DONATE MONTHLY!)
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To: SubMareener

Carter was still in office, able to continue to screw up...

What’s not represented here, are unfavorables.

Reagan was almost certainly not 70% unliked... He was a popular actor and beloved governor.

Trump is a joke of a businessman and even more so of a celebrity.

It will be a Mondale level defeat, and up and down the ticket.

The House and Senate would be in play with the level of loss Trump will bring.


126 posted on 04/02/2016 12:58:37 PM PDT by plewis1250 (The pecking order: Christian, American, Conservative)
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To: laplata
It’s way too early to speculate on this.

No, it is not. There are many people who are still operating under the delusion that Trump should get the nomination. That would be a catastrophe for America. The sooner everyone realizes that the easier it will be to minimize the damage Trump does to the conservative movement, the United States, and the world.

127 posted on 04/02/2016 1:03:27 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: NRx

Well the NRX of his time would have said comparing Reagan to Taft would warrant a psychological examination. Think what you want.


128 posted on 04/02/2016 1:03:48 PM PDT by major-pelham
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To: LongWayHome

So you take a poll with three candidates splitting the electorant then tell people that the candidates are not receiving enough votes to beat Hillary in a hypothetical head to head race with no other true numbers except current trending polls, but don’t take into account the split vote. Until we get through the primaries, you can keep spouting these lies and exaggerations. Example: if Trump, Cruz and Kasich were in a three way tie, and Clinton and Sanders were each tied, then the numbers would show Clinton or Sanders beating all the candidates. Once the dust settles you will get a clearer picture. Otherwise, How can you also have Trump 45%, Cruz 33% and Kasich 17% in the National polls? Clinton is showing 49% and Sanders 43% Nationally . Does one not think that if Cruz and Kasich dropped out that Trump’s numbers would go up? Or if Trump and Kasich dropped out then Cruz’s number would go up. In the end only about 40% (if that much) of the voting public will get out and vote in the General election depending on which candidate is on the ballot. IMO With all of the BS by GOPe and DNC in this election, unless Cruz is able to amass more votes (delegates) in the election than Trump before the convention, he and Kasich should withdraw from the race.


129 posted on 04/02/2016 1:08:06 PM PDT by GATVR (The World is too small for less than brotherhood, and too dangerous for less than truth!)
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To: Dagnabitt

I think Cruz has a narrow path to 270 EV if he runs a disciplined campaign and has strong debate performance, both of which he is capable of.


Ted Cruz doesn’t debate. He dumps buckets of slime talking points. The MSM wouldn’t be giving him top cover in a general. Cruz is a rich & untapped MSM/Dem target: Pastor Ted, gays must die, bimbo eruptions, shady clients, etc., etc. Ted Cruz has ZERO path to 270 EV. He’d be lucky to win 10 states.


130 posted on 04/02/2016 1:08:54 PM PDT by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)
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To: Dagnabitt

I’d like to see your list of states that Cruz flips from 2012 to get to 270 evs.

With him doing <20% in VA, FL and OH primaries, certainly those can’t be on the list.


131 posted on 04/02/2016 1:12:14 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: GATVR

Your breakdown has nothing to do with the voting trends I have mentioned. Conservative voters are being replaced by mass, legal, third world immigration. That’s not a lie, that’s a fact.


132 posted on 04/02/2016 1:12:50 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

You tell me how Trump would be worse for America and the world than Hitlery.


133 posted on 04/02/2016 1:13:46 PM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: NRx

The peeling of the Felon hasn’t even started. There is no enthusiasm for Clinton and this Wile E. Coyote piece only proves no Republican could win which is horse shiite!


134 posted on 04/02/2016 1:18:06 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: redangus

Seeing 20/20 here fellas...

I know it’s rather blurry to you, but Cruz is a GOPe plant.

There’s no other way to put it.


135 posted on 04/02/2016 1:20:18 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: mkjessup

“:^)

Likewise...


136 posted on 04/02/2016 1:20:48 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: laplata

Trump can not possibly be elected. He has the worst favorable ratings of any presidential candidate ever. If he got the nomination Hillary could take a 3 month vacation and still win in a walk. That is not a GOPe lie or a MSM lie or any other kind of lie. It is reality. 65% of Republicans loathe him. 70% of all women loathe him. With good reason. He is a loathsome candidate.


137 posted on 04/02/2016 1:23:46 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: laplata

Trump has successfully alienated most of the woman in this country. What’s really weird was all his fanboys thought this was a great thing. So asking the question would Trump be worse then Hillary? It’s moot. Trump can’t beat Hillary.


138 posted on 04/02/2016 1:26:12 PM PDT by Blackirish ("Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners." - George Carlin)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

You did not answer my question.


139 posted on 04/02/2016 1:26:55 PM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Blackirish

We don’t even know if Hitlery and Trump will be in the race.

But if it is Trump vs Hitlery, what would you do?


140 posted on 04/02/2016 1:28:39 PM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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