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What grand folly.

Nobody at sea thinks this is a good idea.

Only 80 VLS tubes and no CIWS. Does anyone believe you can make 16,000 tons of steel "stealth"?

And, at $7.7 billion per unit($23bil for 3) and enormous waste of money. That's 7-8 new Virginia Class subs, 8-9 new Burke Class DDG's or 20-25 modern Frigates.

This is a clear case of Congress and Defense Contractors telling the Navy what they are going to get.

1 posted on 04/02/2016 10:28:21 AM PDT by Mariner
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Related article at gcaptain.

http://gcaptain.com/photos-uss-zumwalt-returns-from-snowy-sea-trials/


2 posted on 04/02/2016 10:35:50 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists Call 'em what you will, they all have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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We already have something even stealthier and less vulnerable.

It’s called a submarine.

This sounds like another of those military-industrial complex deals Ike warned us about where the new ship or aircraft or weapons system is just an incidental byproduct.

The cash flow generated by the contract is the true product.


3 posted on 04/02/2016 10:37:18 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Noah: 'When the animals began to pair up by specie and stand in line, I really took notice.')
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Any surface warship, including the big carriers are floating obsolescent death traps. Once located by any one of numerous modalities, the ships will e swarmed with stealthy drones some as small as seagulls loaded with C4 plastique explosive and directed directly to target. Theoretically the entire US Navy surface combatant fleet can be sunk by a teenager with a joystick sitting in a basement in Tibet.


5 posted on 04/02/2016 10:47:47 AM PDT by allendale
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the Zumwalt's weapons are currently inactive and isn't carrying any missiles.

So, roughly the same firepower as a rowboat.

6 posted on 04/02/2016 10:56:42 AM PDT by PAR35
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The bad strath technology in WW I. It is called a frickin’ submarine.


7 posted on 04/02/2016 10:59:37 AM PDT by WMarshal (Trump 2016 (and 2020)!)
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9 posted on 04/02/2016 11:01:23 AM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING ’VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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I’d rather have new Virginia class boats and 3-4 Ohio class replacements.

I know there’s a new SSBM in development but there’s no way one of those is going out to sea for less than $2 billion per.


12 posted on 04/02/2016 11:11:06 AM PDT by PittsburghAfterDark (The American media: We do what the Soviet media did without the guns to our head.)
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“no CIWS”

Madness.


13 posted on 04/02/2016 11:13:42 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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The Zumwalt's iconic slab-sided profile, in which no radar antennas, weapons or masts were visible before the modifications which make its RCS much bigger.

Not to mention it is on the right track to be a floating, nearly defenseless, highly flammable, lightly manned, deathtrap. Or in other words as you say an insiders' joke on the men and women in the Navy, but part in parcel with the Perfumed Princes' need for shiny expensive toys which do everything and nothing well - and fool the public into believing that these things actually have a purpose and are worth the money because they look neat in a 10 second shot on the MSN news channels.

14 posted on 04/02/2016 11:15:21 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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IIRC that bow plunges the ship underneath big waves and then down to the bottom in a storm.


18 posted on 04/02/2016 11:32:29 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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19 posted on 04/02/2016 11:40:53 AM PDT by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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I understand the whole “stealth” thing, and yes it is a military ship, but we used to build ships, airplanes, and cars for that matter, that had style

This Zumwalt thing looks like it could have been designed by my 9 year old. It is just plain ugly.


20 posted on 04/02/2016 11:54:10 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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China’s New Battle Cruiser Can Shoot Down Satellites
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/04/02/chinas-new-battle-cruiser-can-shoot-down-satellite.aspx


21 posted on 04/02/2016 12:41:45 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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0.0
NO @!$!@^@%$&^ CIWS?!?!?!

Has the entire military complex lost its godd@mn MIND?!

Good Lord, and I thought the Flunk-35 was a waste.


29 posted on 04/03/2016 10:58:20 PM PDT by Laser_Ray (Hmm)
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