Posted on 03/31/2016 2:10:49 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
If this GOP crap doesn’t stop I will vote third party for Trump or anyone else. Tired of it.
Reince Prebius sent me a 2016 Congressional district census today. Everyone should see what it is asking. I am calling them tomorrow and telling the sonsabitches I am voting third party if this crap doesn’t stop. Get behind Trump. If they insist on giving us Cruz or Kasich then I will watch with glee when Hillary and minions tear Cruz apart. I am done being lied to. Trump may be a snake but then so are all of THEM.
Wrong. Cruz did NOT say he will not support the GOP nominee. Cruz actually said this: “I don’t make it a habit to support people who attack my family”. He left himself room to still support Trump if he wins. He could say, well I don’t make it a habit to support people who attack my family, but in this instance, when the alternative is Hillary Clinton, I will make an exception.
Cruznadians are smoking the good stuff!
All debaters know how to drop an implication
I'm no lawyer, but even I can see enough weasel words in that statement to drive several trucks through.
From Greenpapers SC page:
Each congressional district delegate ... shall be bound during the first ballot at the convention to the presidential candidate who received the greatest number of votes .... If the candidate who received the greatest number of votes in that particular delegate’s home district is not placed in nomination, a delegate must then be bound to the congressional district’s second or third place finisher in the presidential preference primary, respectively. If none of the top three finishers in the congressional district presidential preference primary are placed in nomination, delegates shall be unbound.
Each delegate-at-large shall be bound for the first ballot to the candidate who received the largest number of votes statewide in the presidential preference primary. If the candidate who receives the greatest number of statewide votes in the presidential preference primary is not placed in nomination, a delegate must then be bound to the state’s second or third place finisher in the presidential preference primary, respectively. If none of the top three finishers in the statewide presidential preference primary are placed in nomination, delegates shall be unbound. [South Carolina Republican Party Rules - Rule 11(b)(4), (5)]
He won them fair & square.
The pledge was non-binding anyway
That's when the code characters showed up in the edit (but not the preview) box for me. Can't get rid of them in this post - will check next post without those buttons.
"If the nomination is stolen by convention trickery from Trump, he runs 3rd Party and Hillary becomes president."
I think you left something out there. Trump may not win the nomination, not through trickery, but by not winning a majority of the delegates.
Yes, ‘cause Cruz is a sleazy insider, of course.
Or at least pepper sprayed.
RE: Yes, ‘cause Cruz is a sleazy insider, of course.
Actually Cruz is being tactical, within the rules of the convention of course.
RE: I can see enough weasel words in that statement to drive several trucks through.
Or it could be what he intended it to mean.
Thus, either Trump will be our nominee, or something perceived as trickery will be employed to deny the nomination to him though he clearly had far more delegates entering the convention.
I am just telling you for 100% certain that if Trump goes to the convention with the most delegates even if not an outright majority and doesn't leave the convention with the nomination. He will bolt and take his supporters with him and in the process hand the nomination to Hillary.
It's just that simple.
You may be right, he's certainly capable of it. But if he doesn't get a majority of the delegates going in to the convention then his supporters are mistaken that he's somehow entitled to the nomination anyway. That would be a case where a majority of the delegates were for someone else, and those delegates have a right to agree to pick one of their own candidates if that's what they chose to do. The contest isn't about just getting more delegates than everyone else, it's about getting a majority.
He’s still a sleazy insider! He can’t help himself.
It would save me from having to vote for Hillary, but I would still have to vote straight Democrat down ticket.
If the GOPe takes your attitude, watch the swing state and blue state congressional districts. Enjoy the rat House and Senate.
"But if he doesn't get a majority of the delegates going in to the convention then his supporters are mistaken that he's somehow entitled to the nomination anyway."
"If the GOPe takes your attitude, watch the swing state and blue state congressional districts. Enjoy the rat House and Senate."
This isn't my "attitude". It ought to be as uncontroversial as saying the sky is blue. The nominee is the person who gets a majority of delegates at the convention. It's called majority rule. It's not who gets the most, it's who gets a majority. If candidate A doesn't win a majority then that means a majority does support candidate B, or candidates B and C. If the delegates for B and C want to come to an agreement and vote for one of their candidates they have that right. To say otherwise is to say that a majority of the delegates (those for B and C) don't get to have a say, which is absurd.
This isn't trickery. It isn't stealing. It's simple majority rule. The only problem Trump has with it is that he may not win if he doesn't get a majority going in. So what? That doesn't make it wrong. And if it was one of the other candidates in his position he'd find no problem with the prospect of winning through making a deal with another candidates delegates.
That's terribly rational of you old chap. Enjoy the demise of the GOP. History in the making.
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