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Lasting Damage for G.O.P.? Young Voters Reject Donald Trump (52% Clinton - 19% Trump)
New York Times ^ | March 24, 2016 | Toni Monkovic

Posted on 03/24/2016 7:20:35 PM PDT by reaganaut1

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To: ScottinVA
Try startpage or bing if google is not your cup of tea.

Government types always seem to be lazy.

You could have found the sources if you weren't so busy taking swigs of that cheap beer you drink trying to come up with some sort of coherent reply.

Go swig and get back to me with the answers you are to lazy to seek.

121 posted on 03/25/2016 4:12:04 AM PDT by rineaux (It's not a lie, it's Ted Truth.)
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To: reaganaut1

The question is “do you abide by rules and law or do you do what feels good to you?”

Rules and law mean nothing to the new generation for they have been told that laws (discipline) get in the way of having fun and worse yet impose RESPONSIBILITY upon them.

The Pied-Piper of the Socialist and Democrat party plays a tune they can’t ignore. Our schools, government, entertainment and all venues of communication bait them with promises that rules and laws only are to be followed if you want to. Failure to do so really does not result in any unpleasant results.

No wonder they vote Democrat or Socialist.


122 posted on 03/25/2016 4:16:20 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: RKBA Democrat

“One thing the cruzlims are actually right on is that Trump supporters have no particular loyalty or even use for the gop.”

The GOP has become a dead brand. It inspires no loyalty. Why?

1) It has no core philosophy. Its politicians identify as “conservatives” yet once in office demonstrate no consistency in working or individual liberty and small government.
2) Its leaders have no respect for the electoral base.
3) Since the election of George W. Bush it has completely abandoned any pretense toward being fiscally responsible.
4) The loyalties of its leaders are to wealthy individuals, international corporations, and Wall Street banks.
5) It has no integrity. There are no core principles for which every GOP politician or leader will fight.

In the private sector when brands betray loyal customers, the customer samples alternatives and begins to migrate away. The standard response of the brand is to then promote its products to new customers through discounts and other marketing activity directed toward new customers. This behavior signals to the established loyal customers they are no longer valued, which results in even more defections and lower sales. Even deep discounting rarely attracts enough new customers to offset the old because when a transaction is based only on price (not quality, service, and value), there is no loyalty established with the new customer. Furthermore, the deep discounting tarnishes the brand with old customers. Ultimately the bonds of loyalty to the old reliable customer are broken and new customers are fickle. Profit margins decline, sales decline, stores reduce shelf space, marketing budgets decline, new product development ceases and a vicious downward spiral takes place. In the end the brand disappears.

We are seeing the same thing play out with the Republican brand. The brand has lost its integrity. The managers of its brand value the new consumer they are targeting more than the conservative middle class voter base. The managers of the GOP brand are downplaying or walking away from the core principles that cemented the party’s loyalty to its voter base in order to attract the new target customer. It has convinced itself the old customer has no where else to go and the new customer will eventually become loyal if it compromises (i.e. discounts) the conservative principles that once ensured the loyalty of its base.

The Trump revolution has accomplished two things. First it has shattered the illusion of some of the most steadfast loyalists that the party represented them. For a business analogy think Cadillac when it introduced the Cimarron, a rebadged Chevy Cavalier, in a failed effort to attract upscale young consumers. The Trump phenomena has also shattered the carefully constructed meme that conservatives have no where to go on election day other than the GOP. Conservatives voting for Trump are sending a clear message to the leadership - we will no longer vote for an establishment candidate because he or she is the “least worst” of the choices. In reality that refusal to buy the “least worst” choice started in 2014 when 8 million conservatives stayed home instead of voting for the Massachusetts progressive Mitt Romney.

Whatever happens in 2016 the GOP as a brand is dead. It has no meaning. Ask 100 voters what the Democrat Party truly stands for — i.e. the core principles and positions every Democrat politician will fight for and you will get a list that includes: civil rights, racial equality, social safety net, gender equality, fairness, human rights, social justice, environmental protection, . . . Ask the same thing about Republicans and you are likely to get one word: “conservatism”. If you probe and ask what “conservatism” means, if the respondent is a democrat you will get a list of negatives - anti gay, anti women, anti-black, anti-Muslim, . . . If you probe someone who is thoughtful you will likely find the respondent has trouble responding, particularly if you strongly qualify the response by asking for values or positions every GOP politician will fight for.

People don’t have to think to describe well defined brands eliciting strong loyalty. Brands inspiring loyalty have integrity with respect to those who are loyal to the brand. Brands with weak or no loyalty have no integrity. They sell on price alone and will continue to lower their price (i.e. compromise on principles) until they find a buyer.

Loyalty requires integrity. Steadfast integrity inspires trust which results in loyalty. When integrity is not preserved, the buyer loses trust. Once trust is violated repeatedly, loyalty disappears.

We have reached the point in American politics where both Democrat and Republican voters trust Democrat politicians to do what they say they will do for their voters. Conversely we know Republicans will compromise as soon as they are elected.

When the bonds of loyalty are broken, the brand is dead. It is long past time to create a new party dedicated to the nurturing of individual liberty, the principles of the founding fathers, and the preservation of western civilization. Dead brands rarely revive. However loyal customers survive and find new brands that will serve them well.


123 posted on 03/25/2016 4:24:07 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Tomorrow is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: Soul of the South
A+++
124 posted on 03/25/2016 4:26:04 AM PDT by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: rineaux

There are no sources beyond liberal BS spewers like yourself.

You’ve entertained me enough. Thanks for the laughs.


125 posted on 03/25/2016 4:26:18 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Breathe, Donald.... Breathe.)
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To: ScottinVA
You didn't look.

Lying to yourself, thats acceptable, you've been doing all your life. But to others, shame on you. It's not a lie if you believe it, it's Ted Truth.

Good luck to you, can tell you need it.

126 posted on 03/25/2016 4:29:24 AM PDT by rineaux (It's not a lie, it's Ted Truth.)
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To: rineaux

Child... You have nothing. I don’t ascribe truth to basement bloggers.

You trumpkids have no connection with reality.


127 posted on 03/25/2016 4:34:44 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Breathe, Donald.... Breathe.)
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To: ScottinVA
Promise next time I see you at the stop light I'll throw a quarter in your cup.
128 posted on 03/25/2016 4:38:05 AM PDT by rineaux (It's not a lie, it's Ted Truth.)
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To: reaganaut1

The young are always more liberal but they grow up.


129 posted on 03/25/2016 4:38:51 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: rineaux

LMAO!! Press on.


130 posted on 03/25/2016 4:56:10 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Breathe, Donald.... Breathe.)
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To: tinyowl

Trump is an advocate of the Clintons “Third Way”.

If Trump as a repub President moved to implement “Third Way” economics his family couldn’t profit because the dems would stop him.

With Hillary as President and she implements her “Third Way” economic plan the Trump family will make out like bandits.

Art of the Deal is all about making money and that is what he’s doing.

I suggest you go educate yourself what Hillary’s “Third Way” economic plan is and why both Trump and his good friend George Soros love it.


131 posted on 03/25/2016 5:16:44 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: IMR 4350
Art of the Deal is all about making money and that is what he’s doing.

I disagree. Art of the Deal IS about making money, but there's a lot more money to be be made killing the 1000 richest people in the world and taking their assets. Trump is planning the murder of the 1000 richest people, and he's going to use his family to pick their pockets. Also, because Art of the Deal is about making money, Trump is going to murder children because children cost money. This is why he hates Jews, because if Hitler had won, Hitler would be very rich and Trump could kill him and take all his money and then kill all the Jews and take whatever money Hitler hadn't taken from them, because the Art of the Deal is about how to make money and that's all it's about.

Since he's so busy with all of this, what I call 'The Fourth Way', he doesn't have time for the Third Way, which is, of course, one way less. so less money, and the Art of the Deal is about making money.

132 posted on 03/25/2016 5:53:17 AM PDT by tinyowl (A equals A)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Look up what ‘rock the vote’ is. Uber Libs, 100% of them will be young commies.


133 posted on 03/25/2016 9:35:30 AM PDT by nobamanomore
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To: 20yearsofinternet

What does primary turnout have to do with the general election? The answer is little. Many many people that didn’t vote in the primaries will vote in the general.

Hillary leads Trump in the polls, if she wins by the current margin she’s leading she would win Ohio and Florida for a certainty.

If you wanna poopoo the polls, that’s fine. But that’s what an analyst bases his analysis on.


134 posted on 03/26/2016 9:25:25 PM PDT by Impy (What planet is this?)
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To: Impy
Hillary leads Trump ...

Hahahahahahaaaaa! Poor deluded Teddy Bares.


135 posted on 03/26/2016 9:40:57 PM PDT by WVKayaker (What separates the winners from the losers is how a person reacts to each new twist of fate -D.Trump)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; mlizzy; AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy; InterceptPoint; randita

I’d like to weigh in here. God knows why but...

Silver is working off the current numbers (whatever you think of them, what else would he use) and based on the current numbers, I wouldn’t accuse him of drug use.

The RCP poll average has her up 11% on Trump.

With her current lead over him, some states that voted for Romney are in play.

Georgia, Obama came fairly close in GA, because of Black turnout, maxed out, and he still couldn’t win. Nunn’s daughter couldn’t win. A rat may get 45% in GA and be miles away from being able to get 50% just like Chuck Djou getting 47% in HI-1 was miles away from 50%. Nunn led in some polls and she got 45%. I don’t see GA falling, no Obama, no reason for as high Black turnout.

AZ , full of Hispanics (no, they don’t love Don, they don’t), dems are waiting and hoping for it to turn, they’ve been waiting, maybe wishful thinking, it’s been disappointing them, but it could be in play with Hillary’s current lead. I’d be curious to know how many points better Obama would have done in 2008 if McCain hadn’t been from AZ.

We’ve already seen Obama win NC in 08, though by a small and fraudulent margin. Obama won nationally by 7 points in 08. Romney’s win was a paltry 2 points, Obama won by 4 nationally in 2012. Indiana shifted back into a more Republican position after 2008 but NC did not, do you think it has now?

If she WERE to win by 11, I’d say she’d likely carry NC and would have a chance at AZ.

I’d be more confident if Cruz is the nominee.

If it’s Trump we better hope he opens her throat and makes America decide it hates her more, as he very well could. But if the election were tomorrow she’d certainly beat him, so I can’t fault Silver’s projection too much.


136 posted on 03/26/2016 10:14:08 PM PDT by Impy (What planet is this?)
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To: WVKayaker

What’s a “bare”?


137 posted on 03/26/2016 10:24:47 PM PDT by Impy (What planet is this?)
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To: Impy

Basically, I’m saying that Trump starts out with all of Willard’s wins and goes from there. He cannot possibly perform worse than that ringer did.


138 posted on 03/26/2016 10:37:53 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: reaganaut1

Imagine Sanders


139 posted on 03/26/2016 10:48:18 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Impy
What’s a “bare”?

It's an anagram of bear that aptly fit the Teddy Bares as they have nothing but nothing! Their guy is a lying smarmy lawyer that will represent anyone/anything for the $$$. He has been in court fighting FOR a Chinese Communist company against an American one. Some principles!

Teddy is not what America needs.

VOTE FOR THE WINNER. VOTE TRUMP!


140 posted on 03/26/2016 11:04:22 PM PDT by WVKayaker (What separates the winners from the losers is how a person reacts to each new twist of fate -D.Trump)
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