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To: RitaOK
One man = *four* votes.

That's incorrect and illogical. One delegate gets one vote per ballot. Just like you get one vote per ballot: one primary ballot, one vote in any primary run-off election, one general election ballot. You may physically vote three times, but your vote isn't counted three times in the end results. Multiple ballots at the national convention are equivalent to primary run-off ballots. Same concept.

The people cull, and the forces in power elect the nominee.

At the national convention, the delegates hold the power. They make the rules. They cast the votes. If the delgates want to make a rule change that lowers the threshold of required votes to something other than 50% + 1, they have the power to do that. Likewise, they can make a rule that prevents anyone other than the two candidates who received the most delegates from being listed on a ballot.

We are not a Convention of States. 

The national convention is precisely a convention of states.

71 posted on 03/23/2016 5:46:00 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: BuckeyeTexan; onyx; LS; Windflier; hoosiermama; Jane Long; entropy12; nopardons; Guenevere; ...

I can not post, or I would want to post this every 12 hours for months, until July.

* Timothy P. Carney, Washington Examiner, March 22nd. *(Yesterday, via Hotair.com)

His story is the account of exactly what happened in the 2012 National Convention— what is in store for us, in 2016.

The tactics, in 2012, were brutally undemocratic and assure us that democracy does not reign if the Establishment determines that the frontrunner is the “wrong” pick, by some silly popular primary vote.

While the coming July Republican Convention is a National Convention, it is certainly not a Convention of States by any measure in the same vein as you propose, nor is anyone represented but for the Establishment. It is simply a *Republican” “National” Convention.

Carney exposes the caterwalling, the corruption, the facts of the 2012 Convention as the events on the floor took place.

I do not think the people will stand for such a thing, twice.

Were you there? You know this already, if you were.

You say, “the delegates hold all the power”. They do not, actually.

You toy with me when you say, “One delegate gets one vote per ballot.”

I said delegates get four votes until a nominee is selected.

I did not discuss rabbit trails of general election ballots. You know very well I am speaking to the 1237, or bust, and nothing else.

My point was *obviously* that FOR THE NOMINEE, rank and file primary voters do not get four ballots to vote four different times.

It is only delegates who potentially vote *four* times.

These individual delegates vote in their primary, one time, for a nominee.

They vote a SECOND time, as a delegate on the first ballot, for their state popular winner candidate.

They vote a THIRD time, against their state perhaps, on the second ballot.

They vote a FOURTH time, as a delegate, for someone perhaps who did not even run, on the THIRD BALLOT.

Four votes for one man.

Just sayin’.


79 posted on 03/23/2016 7:35:17 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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