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To: BuckeyeTexan; onyx; LS; Windflier; hoosiermama; Jane Long; entropy12; nopardons; Guenevere; ...

I can not post, or I would want to post this every 12 hours for months, until July.

* Timothy P. Carney, Washington Examiner, March 22nd. *(Yesterday, via Hotair.com)

His story is the account of exactly what happened in the 2012 National Convention— what is in store for us, in 2016.

The tactics, in 2012, were brutally undemocratic and assure us that democracy does not reign if the Establishment determines that the frontrunner is the “wrong” pick, by some silly popular primary vote.

While the coming July Republican Convention is a National Convention, it is certainly not a Convention of States by any measure in the same vein as you propose, nor is anyone represented but for the Establishment. It is simply a *Republican” “National” Convention.

Carney exposes the caterwalling, the corruption, the facts of the 2012 Convention as the events on the floor took place.

I do not think the people will stand for such a thing, twice.

Were you there? You know this already, if you were.

You say, “the delegates hold all the power”. They do not, actually.

You toy with me when you say, “One delegate gets one vote per ballot.”

I said delegates get four votes until a nominee is selected.

I did not discuss rabbit trails of general election ballots. You know very well I am speaking to the 1237, or bust, and nothing else.

My point was *obviously* that FOR THE NOMINEE, rank and file primary voters do not get four ballots to vote four different times.

It is only delegates who potentially vote *four* times.

These individual delegates vote in their primary, one time, for a nominee.

They vote a SECOND time, as a delegate on the first ballot, for their state popular winner candidate.

They vote a THIRD time, against their state perhaps, on the second ballot.

They vote a FOURTH time, as a delegate, for someone perhaps who did not even run, on the THIRD BALLOT.

Four votes for one man.

Just sayin’.


79 posted on 03/23/2016 7:35:17 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: RitaOK

Ping away for reinforcement. It doesn’t change the facts. I have met and am personal friends with a few on your list. I know them to be good and reasonable people.

One delegate - one vote. Not one delegate - four votes. You can’t twist that any other way. Multiple ballots at the convention are akin to primary run-off ballots.

I’ve been there, done that, got the t-shirt. I watched it in Technicolor as Obama stole delegates from Hillary in 2008. I was elected as a Hillary delegate during Operation Chaos. Detailed it many times here. I’ve also served as a Republican delegate more than once. I understand the process. I know the rules. I know who makes the rules.

Yes, Romney’s crew manipulated the 2012 Convention Rules to keep Ron Paul off the ballot. They learned that from Obama and ACORN. The difference this year? We know what to expect. We are armed with information. The MSM and the new media are talking non-stop about a contested convention. Have been for months. Any delegate who goes to the convention unprepared deserves a public flogging.

The delegates have control at the convention.


80 posted on 03/23/2016 8:10:51 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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