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Washington Post: Growing Concern About FBI Sniper Actions In Oregon Standoff
Breitbart ^ | 3-17-2016 | John Hayward

Posted on 03/20/2016 9:49:40 AM PDT by azkathy

The two-month standoff between Oregon militia members and police came to a violent end in January, with the shooting of militia leader Robert “LaVoy” Finicum by Oregon state troopers. But now the Washington Post reports “new details have emerged” about the controversial conduct of FBI Hostage Rescue Team snipers.

The Post article portrays the current state of the investigation as considerably messier than readers casually following the story might have suspected. The FBI team has been accused of firing at Finicum’s truck, failing to report their shots as required, and actually taking steps to cover their tracks by collecting their spent shell casings: Last week, Deschutes County Sheriff Shane Nelson, who is overseeing the investigation, said he had concluded that “FBI HRT operators fired two shots as Mr. Finicum exited the truck, and one shot hit the truck.”

Nelson accused the agents of failing to “disclose their shots to our investigators.” The five FBI agents have denied firing assault rifles during the incident. But in a recently released interview, an Oregon State Police officer told investigators that he spotted two copper-colored rifle casings near the spot where the FBI agents were standing.

The Hostage Rescue Team has used copper- ­colored casings, former agents said; the Oregon state police use only silver-colored casings. The copper casings were never recovered.

Meanwhile, the Portland Oregonian reported Tuesday that FBI surveillance video taken after the shooting shows the agents searching the area with flashlights and huddling. One of them then bends over twice and appears to be picking up something. On Wednesday, a law enforcement official confirmed the video account.

If allegations of a coverup are determined to be true, the incident would be hugely embarrassing to the FBI and deal a devastating blow to the FBI team’s reputation.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bundy; dsj02; fbi; finicum; murder; oregon; oregonstandoff
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To: DesertRhino

This situation is such a clear violation of the first Amendment. All Freedom Loving Americans should be outraged.

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.”

Some might say there is a religious component, both LaVoy Finicum and the Bundy’s are Mormon. I am not convinced that has much to do with the issue. It is just a side-note but Christians are under attack with the current administration.

They were exercising their right to Free Speech, even if it is offensive to some that doesn’t prohibit their right to say it.

They were Peaceably assembling with other like minded citizens.

They were petitioning the Government for redress of grievances-Free the Hammonds, stop the abuse of the BLM, the Forest Service, the FBI and other government agencies in general. (Through an Act of Civil Disobedience.)

This is the truth of what they were doing. Just because the “authorities” have tried to portray them as domestic terrorists does not make it so.


41 posted on 03/20/2016 11:28:37 AM PDT by azkathy (OBAMA IS WARING OUT MY CAPS LOCK!!!)
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To: azkathy

We need a deterrent for the Oregon State Police and FBI agents involved so this doesn’t happen again.


42 posted on 03/20/2016 11:31:11 AM PDT by scripter
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To: Abbeville Conservative; abigailsmybaby; afnamvet; alley cat; antceecee; APatientMan; xzins; ...

Ping!


43 posted on 03/20/2016 11:33:46 AM PDT by azkathy (OBAMA IS WARING OUT MY CAPS LOCK!!!)
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To: azkathy

....FBI Hostage Rescue Team snipers.


Hey, they are a RESCUING killing team from the government, so what is the big deal?


44 posted on 03/20/2016 11:37:16 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Mr Radical

Sadly court is something to look forward to however, these political prisoners -some who never had so much as a speeding ticket are being held unjustly. Some have/are being held in solitary confinement. Very few have been released on bond.


45 posted on 03/20/2016 11:37:38 AM PDT by azkathy (OBAMA IS WARING OUT MY CAPS LOCK!!!)
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To: azkathy

So, it appears the FBI is as corrupt as the IRS, the Just Us Dept, the Congress, the presidency, the MSM, and Wall Street.

Still think the Hillab*tch will get indicted?

Hold on to those guns.

It would appear there will be only one way out of this.


46 posted on 03/20/2016 11:39:43 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: SaraJohnson

In the documents released by the Sheriffs office, the officers discuss when they first became involved in the “incident”. It was definitely a planned ambush. They mention the use of ladders as in shooting ladders to have a better shot at their target.

I have a facebook friend who took pictures of the scene and you can clearly see where they cut tree limbs off to secure a clear shot.

It’s disgusting-Michele Fiore and other elected officials met with the FBI, Judge Grasty and others on Jan 9 with offer to help negotiate. They were told no negotiations. The authorities said the protesters just need to go home.

Judge Grasty nastily says to the elected reps of Coalition of Western States, “Who invited you here?”
He also refers to the protesters as “terrorists” which the reps called him out on. His response was well people need to quit calling the BLM terrorists because he has family who work there. Imagine that, one of the instigators/insiders has family with the BLM.
http://www.opb.org/news/series/burns-oregon-standoff-bundy-militia-news-updates/republican-gop-politicians-coalition-western-states/

Listen to this if you want to hear the tone of Grasty and the authorities. (The Governors communications clearly show that Grasty was of influence in her circle of friends.)


47 posted on 03/20/2016 11:53:49 AM PDT by azkathy (OBAMA IS WARING OUT MY CAPS LOCK!!!)
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To: Da Coyote

See link below, “In the deposition of another officer, he acknowledged that the authorization for the operation that led to the murder of LaVoy Finicum came from the “highest levels of national command authority”.

Now, national command authority in the united States applies to the President and the Secretary of Defense. Smith said he has only heard “national command authority” used in military terms. Keep in the back of your mind that our military has been given propaganda against such Americans as those that gathered at Bundy Ranch in 2014 and those that protested the unconstitutional land grab of the DC government and the Bureau of Land Management.”
http://freedomoutpost.com/did-valerie-jarrett-order-the-hit-on-lavoy-finicum/


48 posted on 03/20/2016 12:30:35 PM PDT by azkathy (OBAMA IS WARING OUT MY CAPS LOCK!!!)
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To: Rappini

“My guess is that Obama told the FBI to get it done.”

Fair assessment. - If the next President does not remove
& shake up the cesspool that Hussein has created, blood will
eventually run in the streets.

LaVoy Finicum seemed to be a decent person with a very
interesting point of view. (The Commies are not about to
tolerate that! Even the Constitution, if it is a “living”
document; its days are numbered.) You can hear the death
rattle if you listen closely.

MARANATHA! Man’s government was not and is not capable of
governing.


49 posted on 03/20/2016 12:38:38 PM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: Paladin2

Make no mistake. It is obama who orders the murder of white Christian ranchers. And what do the RINOs have to say? NOTHIN.
What do elected officials Rep and Dems in Oregon have to say? NOTHIN

THEY ALL NEED TO BE REPLACED AND SENT TO PRISON.


50 posted on 03/20/2016 12:48:54 PM PDT by doc maverick
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To: azkathy; goodnesswins; PROCON; Twotone; VeryFRank; Clinging Bitterly; Rio; aimhigh; Hieronymus; ...

If you would like more information about what's happening in Oregon, please FReepmail me.

Please send me your name by FReepmail if you want to be on this list.

51 posted on 03/20/2016 1:23:26 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: azkathy

Then, the message is clear.

The Democrats will murder Americans to enforce their will on us.

Anyone who supports the Democrat Party supports murder as a government policy.

Any member of the Press that helps the Democrat Party supports the Democrat policy of murder as a tool of the government.


52 posted on 03/20/2016 1:39:58 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Twinkie

There are still those fighting to save it. Very interesting information in this story. http://www.opb.org/news/series/burns-oregon-standoff-bundy-militia-news-updates/republican-gop-politicians-coalition-western-states/

While they try to say that these GOP politicians were in on the planning there is no proof of that.

I did find some interesting names of friends that are listed with this group. One is Gavin Seim-listed as their media rep. Gavin and Kris Anne Hall were the ones on the live feed talking the last four out of the refuge.


53 posted on 03/20/2016 2:05:05 PM PDT by azkathy (OBAMA IS WARING OUT MY CAPS LOCK!!!)
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To: azkathy

Kathy, this is a foregone conclusion. They know they will get away with murders as they have many times before.

The men who rightfully stood up to them knew they would be murdered, too.

I don’t know what to say without sounding like a banchee.


54 posted on 03/20/2016 2:21:54 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: azkathy

Will be interesting to see if anything comes of this, in terms of our inept government agencies and another colossal fail. Last week there was an article or Fox 12 news story stating the FBI had an excuse for not knowing if they fired shots at LFs vehicle, as they did not perform the normal daily weapons and ammunition inventory, which is SOP, the morning of this unfortunate event?


55 posted on 03/20/2016 2:23:26 PM PDT by conservative_cyclist (I want my parents country back!)
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To: SaraJohnson

At least brave men Tried to stand up to the corrupt govt.


56 posted on 03/20/2016 2:24:35 PM PDT by LYDIAONTARIO
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To: stockpirate
The video shows two officers shooting him from behind in the back with pistols, which some do not eject shell casings.

All pistols eject shell casings. Revolvers do not eject shell casings, but have not been used by FBI agents for decades.

The autopsy showed he was hit by .223 (5.56 mm) bullets. These are primarily fired by rifles, although there are a few specialized pistols which fire this cartridge.

57 posted on 03/20/2016 2:30:52 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: LYDIAONTARIO

Yeah.


58 posted on 03/20/2016 2:41:11 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: azkathy

Yeah, murder by FBI might really embarrass the agency.


59 posted on 03/20/2016 2:47:37 PM PDT by goldbux (When you're odd the odds are with you.)
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To: DesertRhino

““Operators”? I thought FBI types were “agents”.”

Both of your posts are spot on. For whatever reason, perhaps the FBI HRT has many recent additions that actually were tier 1, the way they handled this situation was inexcusable. It was CLEARLY set up as an ambush, and unfortunately, they most likely achieved their desired outcome, that is, making an example of Finicum. The video taken from inside the truck, with visual and audio of the rounds hitting the windows and body of the truck, is very very bad news for those who designed this domestic operation. Let’s hope and pray that justice will prevail.


60 posted on 03/20/2016 4:30:20 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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