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To: 11th_VA; Lazamataz
In contrast, Christians are talking about God raising up Trump to lead America, which would be very different than Cyrus being used to help the exiles return to Jerusalem and rebuild it.

SLOPPY premise.

What I have been advocating is an independence between state and church. What many people don't realize is that the "liberal" churches have been pumping their own form of religion upon the government. And because it often comes with a smiley face whereas the "conservative" churches' form of this often comes with a frowney face, the smiley face wins.

What would happen if we abandoned that model and went back to one where the only folks expected to be exalting God were the churches? The rest (e.g. Donald Trump) are expected to be fair in some secular, worldly sense but we give up the idea of ever getting a boost for "religion" that way other than being friendly to the generic idea of faith.

Suddenly it WOULD look more like the Cyrus model. The church can be more vigorous with less resources than ancient Israel could, but the grace of God is the supply. If Trump makes the USA economically happier, then churches can ride on that surplus to fuel their gospel missions better.

So Laz am I mad? Yep I am God-mad. Like Habakkuk was.

120 posted on 03/18/2016 11:31:38 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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121 posted on 03/18/2016 11:34:45 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I'm an Islamophobe??? Well, good. When it comes to Islam, there's plenty to Phobe about.)
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122 posted on 03/18/2016 11:35:34 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I'm an Islamophobe??? Well, good. When it comes to Islam, there's plenty to Phobe about.)
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123 posted on 03/18/2016 11:35:58 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I'm an Islamophobe??? Well, good. When it comes to Islam, there's plenty to Phobe about.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

124 posted on 03/18/2016 11:36:41 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I'm an Islamophobe??? Well, good. When it comes to Islam, there's plenty to Phobe about.)
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