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Republicans Debate Guest Workers
Townhall.com ^ | March 8, 2016 | Phyllis Schlafly

Posted on 03/08/2016 10:29:35 AM PST by Kaslin

Why do so many Republicans want to bring foreign guest workers into our country? Even when candidates say they want to "secure the borders" or crack down on illegal immigration, some Republicans just can't let go of the notion that our economy can't grow without foreign workers who supposedly do "jobs that Americans won't do."

The subject exploded in the last two presidential debates, where all five candidates (Trump, Cruz, Rubio, Kasich, and Carson) made statements or have supported proposals to increase the number of guest workers. Trump and Cruz, at least, are trying to disavow their earlier positions, but Rubio and Kasich have refused to recant their support for guest workers.

In the Feb. 25 CNN debate in Houston, John Kasich and Ben Carson both suggested that the 11-plus million illegal aliens could remain in this country as guest workers after they "come out of the shadows." Donald Trump defended his practice of hiring foreign workers to staff his Palm Beach club during the peak season, which is perfectly legal under the H-2B visa program. (Each year, Donald's club uses about 70 of the 66,000 available visas.)

In the March 3 Fox News debate in Detroit, Trump defended the hiring of foreign workers by the technology industry in Silicon Valley, saying "we have to have talented people in this country." Trump seemed to be buying the industry's propaganda that American college graduates aren't smart enough to work in the computer industry.

Ted Cruz saw an opportunity to criticize Trump's support for foreign workers, but moderator Megyn Kelly quickly reminded Cruz that "not long ago you proposed quintupling the number of these foreign worker visas." Indeed, Cruz's amendment to increase the number of H-1B visas to 325,000 per year was rejected by the Senate Gang of Eight in 2013.

Shortly after the debate, Trump issued a statement clarifying that when he said that America needs "talented people" with "brain power," he wasn't referring to foreign workers on temporary H-1B work visas. Although H-1B visa candidates are supposed to be "high-skilled," most have only mediocre talents and are used primarily to fill entry-level positions at large corporations.

The misuse and abuse of H-1B visas was exposed in a hearing held on Feb. 25 before a Senate subcommittee chaired by Senator Jeff Sessions (R-AL). The subcommittee heard from one of the 250 skilled technical employees of the Walt Disney Company in Florida who were laid off after being forced to train their foreign replacements recruited under the H-1B program.

As Sen. Sessions pointed out in his opening statement, "technology companies will cut at least 330,000 jobs this year. There is no shortage of highly qualified working American professionals, nor is there a shortage of American STEM college graduates each year." Only about half of our science, technology, engineering and math graduates find STEM jobs.

In his post-debate statement, Donald Trump said "I remain totally committed to eliminating rampant, widespread H-1B abuse and ending outrageous practices such as those that occurred at Disney. I will end forever the use of H-1B as a cheap labor program, and institute an absolute requirement to hire American workers first."

Ted Cruz has also become more critical of guest workers, co-sponsoring a bill with Sen. Sessions that would suspend all H-1B visas for 180 days and impose stiff new requirements on companies that use them. Cruz's bill, the American Jobs First Act, would open job opportunities for American college graduates by eliminating visas for foreigners who have less than a Ph.D. degree.

Marco Rubio, on the other hand, remains a co-sponsor of the industry-supported I-Squared bill (S. 153), which would relax requirements and triple the number of H-1B visas to 195,000 a year. It would eliminate the current per-country cap, which means that many more of the visas would go to workers from India.

The wages of working Americans have been stagnant for many years, and part of the reason is our high levels of immigration -- both legal and illegal -- as well as the many different guest worker programs. Tell your member of Congress to tighten up or eliminate those programs, and support presidential candidates who put American workers first.

Don't let anyone tell you that we can't deport the people who came illegally or stayed in our country after their temporary visas expired. It's well documented that President Dwight Eisenhower peacefully removed at least 1 million illegal aliens in June 1954 and sent them back to Mexico, including many who got the message and left on their own.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; corporatewelfare; cruz; h1b; immigration; trump
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To: stocksthatgoup
Have you heard any of the Republican candidates call for enforcement of the law against people who hire undocumented workers? Can you find any mention of putting illegal employers in jail on any of their websites?

Six months in prison, and up to $16K fine is what Federal law provides.

But, if we enforced that law, they would have to give American jobs to Americans, and that would cost them more.

Who do you think they is? Leftists? What jobs would leftists have to give anyone?

The people who are luring illegal immigrants across our borders by giving them American jobs are Republicans, pure and simple.
21 posted on 03/08/2016 11:27:43 AM PST by hardtruth (It takes illegal employers to give our jobs to illegal immigrants.)
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To: Kaslin

Why shouldn’t all Americans be entitled to having captive foreign laborers and keep the required wage low at like one dollar an hour? That way us poor people who are displaced by the foreign guest workers can at least have a nanny to take care of the kids so we can get a graveyard shift security guard job or something.

The cute thing is that they want to keep captive foreign worker wages high enough to lock the rest of us out of having our own captive foreign workers. They accomplish that easily by devaluing our labor and putting us out of work with their imported plantation hands. They even get to make the citizen victims subsidize the healthcare and food of their imported field hands with obamacare and food stamps.

Or how about we pass a law giving each American citizen the right to own one captive foreign laborer and we can sell our right to the highest bidding plantation owners? I don’t understand why just Republican donors should be allowed to own these imported captive laborers.


22 posted on 03/08/2016 11:32:27 AM PST by Perchant
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To: stephenjohnbanker

“who supposedly do “jobs that Americans won’t do.”

BS. Construction trades were good jobs!. My first job was as an apprentice carpenter during Summer vacations. I made good money, and the master carpenters made a good living! Then, during a slow few months at the electronics firm I was laid off from, I hung sheet rock. Piecework. If you were good at it you could make a lot. Masonry, concrete work, etc., those jobs have all gone to mexicans. There will be a bilingual foreman to tell the mexicans what to do next.


23 posted on 03/08/2016 12:04:25 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Actually I do, and was begged to bring students into the learning environment. You know, adding, subtracting, speaking, reasoning, etc.


24 posted on 03/08/2016 12:51:31 PM PST by Safetgiver (Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

EXACTLY


25 posted on 03/08/2016 12:54:30 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Safetgiver
The simple way to solve this problem is to do just what the Japanese do with imported workers: require the companies to pay them at least 10% over the going wage with similar workers in the industry.

If any industry gets too big of a ratio of foreign workers, the wage inflation convinces more Japanese to train for that work and the ratio begins to diminish.

It also ensures that the foreign workers are treated as elite talent and not exploited as low wage workers. A big win for the foreign workers (albeit a lot fewer of them) and a big win for the citizens. It is also fairly simple to implement and police.

26 posted on 03/08/2016 1:20:10 PM PST by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Carnegie Mellon here in the Pittsburgh area is one of them. They have such a strong enrollment of students from India that the suburb of Monroeville has the largest Hindu Temple in the world outside India.

Students from India and other foreign countries typically graduate from IT programs at CMU with multiple job offers. American graduates with comparable grades, not so much. A few years ago, one of them smuggled a video camera into a local seminar for IT employers titled "How Not to Hire Americans" and posted it on You-Tube. I kid you not. It may even still be there.

The abuse of Guest Worker programs is widely known and well documented.

27 posted on 03/08/2016 1:26:08 PM PST by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman

Re: “The simple way to solve this problem is to do just what the Japanese do with imported workers: require the companies to pay them at least 10% over the going wage with similar workers in the industry.”

There is one huge difference...

The Japanese have very few foreign born citizens or permanent legal residents.

America imports 1.25 million, mostly low skill, LEGAL immigrants EVERY year.

The size of our low skill work force, and the size of our Information Technology workforce, have been massively distorted by LEGAL immigration.

Bottom Line - American wages are already depressed by a massive oversupply of labor.

If we import more foreign labor with work visas, wages will go down more, even with a 10% premium.


28 posted on 03/08/2016 4:05:51 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen
No they won't. Because companies will decide that if they have to pay a 10% premium over American workers, then the American workers just might be able to do the job as well.

They can't undercut wages by having to pay more.

29 posted on 03/08/2016 4:26:46 PM PST by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: Safetgiver
As a part time, one time college adjunct instructor, I’d agree with that statement.

< expletive deleted > you.

30 posted on 03/08/2016 4:33:11 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: ObozoMustGo2012

If you get rid of the foreigners wages will go up and attract a higher caliber student. I find it funny the people that probably had trouble with high school algebra are critical of US students.


31 posted on 03/08/2016 4:35:05 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Vigilanteman

Not if I’m the boss.

Giving everybody a 10% raise to fill all my jobs?

Forget that noise.

I’d cut wages by 10%, and then pay the old wage to the foreign work visas I’d have to hire to make up for the people who quit.


32 posted on 03/08/2016 4:37:33 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: Parmenio; ColdOne; Yossarian; knittnmom; sf4dubya; Mr. Peabody; wally_bert; dowcaet; ...
H-1B ping. Let me know if you're not on the list and want to be added (or are and want to be removed).
33 posted on 03/08/2016 5:09:57 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (Trump fans:'he's no more conservative than Mitt'-www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3389209/posts)
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