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Legal marijuana is finally doing what the drug war couldn’t
Washington Post ^ | March 03, 2016 | Christopher Ingraham

Posted on 03/05/2016 9:11:55 PM PST by Ken H

Legal marijuana may be doing at least one thing that a decades-long drug war couldn't: taking a bite out of Mexican drug cartels' profits.

The latest data from the U.S. Border Patrol shows that last year, marijuana seizures along the southwest border tumbled to their lowest level in at least a decade. Agents snagged roughly 1.5 million pounds of marijuana at the border, down from a peak of nearly 4 million pounds in 2009.

The data supports the many stories about the difficulties marijuana growers in Mexico face in light of increased competition from the north. As domestic marijuana production has ramped up in places such as California, Colorado and Washington, marijuana prices have fallen, especially at the bulk level.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cannabis; marijuana; pot; potheads; wod
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To: familyop

“One of the slang names used by inner-city folks for pot way back in the ‘70s was “herb.”

Now it’s called “CHRONIC”


41 posted on 03/06/2016 12:20:56 AM PST by jessduntno (The mind of a liberal...deceit, desire for control, greed, contradiction and fueled by hate.)
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To: DenverCossack

Might have something to do with the depression.


42 posted on 03/06/2016 12:30:27 AM PST by MetaThought
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To: Texas Eagle
Where do the medical mj dispensaries get their pot?

State licensed grow operations.

Correct! The groves operated by the Mexican drug cartels!

So CO is licensing Mexcan drug cartels? Where is your proof?

43 posted on 03/06/2016 12:34:54 AM PST by Ken H
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To: familyop
Notice the cheerleading about states getting rich from revenues from the narcotic?

No. There was a post with the figures for tax revenues, but nothing about states getting rich.

State of Colorado Debt Clock

It is meaningless to throw out a figure like that without comparing it to other states.

CO is doing pretty well from a fiscal standpoint. It is among the top states in GDP growth, it's welfare payments per capita are in the lower half, and its unemployment figures are among the lowest. See => http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/compare_state_spending_2016d40a

44 posted on 03/06/2016 12:49:07 AM PST by Ken H
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To: JediJones
Drug legalization is a SIN, it’s destructive to human life and the economy, it’s wrong, it’s evil.

Thank goodness the Progressives came along and corrected the SIN this country had been living in since Colonial times!

45 posted on 03/06/2016 12:56:41 AM PST by Ken H
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To: familyop
Does that say the debt is over $54 billion?

Down from over $86 billion in 2012.

https://ballotpedia.org/Colorado_state_budget_and_finances

46 posted on 03/06/2016 1:10:20 AM PST by Ken H
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To: jessduntno

Late 1960 marijuana was almost legal?

That is hilarious to those of us who were there

Btw folks are still going to jail for pot

Bigtime as in decades

It’s a screwy situation

But alcohol scourge that I see it is

Gets celebrated for killing so many

Jeremy Clarkson is right about America


47 posted on 03/06/2016 1:15:05 AM PST by wardaddy (Ted Cruz endorser of Rubio is off my Christmas list......)
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To: Texas Eagle

***Where do the medical mj dispensaries get their pot?

Correct! The groves operated by the Mexican drug cartels!***

Absolutely not true!

There are small and fairly large operations springing up all over the northwest being operated by locals who are saturating the market.

The cartels are being left in the dust!


48 posted on 03/06/2016 1:42:10 AM PST by ResponseAbility (The truth of liberalism is the stupid can feel smart, the lazy entitled, and the immoral unashamed)
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To: DenverCossack; jonrick46; Ken H
Yep what they are losing in marihuana they will make up in Heroin and Cocaine.

But it proves the point. The War on Drugs is a failure.

We have surrendered liberty to government for a false promise that government could protect us and our children from drugs and the drug culture.

Of course it was a lie. Now we have No Knock Raids by paramilitary police units that take the word of paid informants with no corroborating evidence. They then break in to the house of innocent people, kill dogs, maim children, get themselves or innocent residents killed.

Sure drugs ruin a lot of lives, but those lives are theirs to ruin.

I am not willing to surrender my liberty and my civil rights for the false promise of security.

Prohibition didn’t work in the 1930s when alcohol was prohibited and it hasn’t worked since drugs have been prohibited.

Prohibition fuels a black market in the prohibited substance and the profits of the black market fuels criminal gangs.

49 posted on 03/06/2016 2:27:10 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: rottndog

So if the government started handing out crack, we could put the drug cartels out of business together and totally solve the drug problem. I mean, if we let private industry sell crack legally....didnt mean to sound so big government.

But the problem would be fixed.


50 posted on 03/06/2016 2:52:45 AM PST by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: Texas Eagle

“Where do the medical mj dispensaries get their pot? Correct! The groves operated by the Mexican drug cartels!”

You might want to look into this a little deeper, your sounding pretty foolish. Start with the Colorado laws for commercial grow operations and follow it all the way down to retail and possession limits. It’s hardly a cartel operation.


51 posted on 03/06/2016 4:34:14 AM PST by Dusty Road (")
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To: RginTN

The illegal operations grow in quantity, the legal indoor operations due to state production limits grow for quality.


52 posted on 03/06/2016 4:46:16 AM PST by Dusty Road (")
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To: Dusty Road
You might want to look into this a little deeper, your sounding pretty foolish.

Yeah? Next time you're in Northern California (soon to The State of Jefferson), stop by and I'll give you a tour of the marijuana groves in the Sierra Foothills that the Mexican drug cartels are running.

Oh. And bring your own bullet-proof vest. Oh. And make sure you give your next-of-kin elaborate details about your itinerary so they have an idea as to where to at least start the search for your body.

53 posted on 03/06/2016 6:21:21 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Ken H
So CO is licensing Mexcan drug cartels?

Funny thing about the cartels. They're not really big on licensing.

Where is your proof?

Come up here to Northern California. Go for a walk through the Sierra Foothills. Follow your nose. You'll get your proof. Right between the eyes.

54 posted on 03/06/2016 6:25:21 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: ResponseAbility; Ken H; Dusty Road
Absolutely not true! The cartels are being left in the dust!

You might want to look into this a little deeper, your sounding pretty foolish. It’s hardly a cartel operation.

So CO is licensing Mexcan drug cartels? Where is your proof?


"Proof? I got yer steenking proof right here!"

SacBee Ignores Drug Cartels in Pot Farming Story

Video: Mexican Drug Cartels In Northern California

Mexican Cartels Extending Violent Reach Into Calaveras County

13 Arrested In California Drug Cartel Investigation

55 posted on 03/06/2016 6:50:21 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: sargon

I don’t get to decide the boundaries of your Pursuit of Happiness, unless and until you infringe on someone else’s rights by committing a crime of force, fraud, or palpable negligence.

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I’d swear that used to be common knowledge. I’m 57, for the record.


56 posted on 03/06/2016 7:15:46 AM PST by dmz
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To: wardaddy

“That is hilarious to those of us who were there”

I don’t know where you were, but it wasn’t it any of a dozen or so American cities, where it was bought sold and used in the open, from say, ‘67-’70. Then the drugs REALLY took hld and it became a very hot war. An ounce of pot (very, very weak by today’s standards) sold for $10 and was easier to get than booze for kids who were underage. In 1970 or so it jumped to $30 and then the inevitable slough of harder drugs came along and it took a very nasty turn, as it always does with drugs. Drug use escalates. Clearly, there was your world and there was another of which you were unaware.


57 posted on 03/06/2016 7:27:53 AM PST by jessduntno (The mind of a liberal...deceit, desire for control, greed, contradiction and fueled by hate.)
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To: wardaddy

“Late 1960 marijuana was almost legal?”

...and the quote was “late 60’s” plural. In 1960, it was still very underground unless you lived in a city where it was easily obtained in certain PARTS of the city.

You have a right to disagree, but you do NOT have a right to misquote me.


58 posted on 03/06/2016 7:30:54 AM PST by jessduntno (The mind of a liberal...deceit, desire for control, greed, contradiction and fueled by hate.)
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To: Texas Eagle

We’re talking CO, please keep up with the topic.


59 posted on 03/06/2016 8:12:04 AM PST by Dusty Road (")
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To: Texas Eagle

No CO has licensed growers who then sell to the retailers.


60 posted on 03/06/2016 8:14:01 AM PST by Dusty Road (")
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