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Obama 2008 “They cling to their God and Guns”.
Seems the GOP Establishment shares that contempt of average people.
It’s a big reason whey he is doing so well in Michigan.
We cant go 1/4th of a mile in any direction and not see the site of a plant or factory that once employed hundreds or thousands. Neighborhoods that were once prospering are decrepit.
My town just lost ANOTHER plant to Mexico recently.
People want most of all is a guy that gives a damn about our industry to at least fight the mess in DC and in our trade “deals” to start tipping that back in our favor.
What good is being the largest consumer nation if we dont at least make some of our own purchases?
Not just your area, the whole country. Every sector of the economy. Unenforced wink-and-nod immigration policy coupled with insane amounts of H1B’s has wrecked what little job prospects are left after the successful (for the globalists) implementation of NAFTA, with the final nail in the coffin to come with TPP.
Everyone sees through the BS now.
It’s the same everywhere though.
Go into a restaurant - all the bus boys and waiters are immigrants.
My company cafeteria - all Honduran and Mexican
Landscapers - they’re affectionately called “little brown men”
They’re doing the jobs that no “privileged” American would stoop to do. And THAT is the bigger problem.
I’m all for kicking out illegals theoretically I guess. But selfishly, I’d rather not pay $5 for an avocado or $50 for a $20 bottle of wine because those CA industries will now have to try and employ Americans.
It's amazing to me how many people here do not understand what you mean by "leaving this community devastated".
In Northern New England, you can see this everywhere.
The usual responses "well, it's the union's fault", or, "they should retrain to write video game software" are so far out of touch with reality...
If your area is rightly mad about Fruit of the Loom moving jobs out of the country, why would they support someone who mad all his clothing manufactured in China, Bangladesh, and Mexico?
When you reference several to one home, what you’re really addressing is several “FAMILIES” to one home.
If you get three illegal immigrant families living in one home, they don’t have to make as much much as the single family dweller does.
They undercut the single family dweller, making it impossible for him to support his family and home.
The illegal can make 1/3rd the money, and still live in a standard of living they are willing to accept.
You can’t.
Yes folks, it’s that simple.
This is the corrosive aspect of illegal immigration that a lot of folks haven’t had to deal with yet.
It’s exactly the same story everywhere. The sum total is that all of the money is going elsewhere, resulting in a reduction in our quality of life. Yes, in theory “we” get cheaper crap at Walmart and household services, but it doesn’t begin to make up for the loss of income generally. Not a good deal for most people, yet our leaders push it more and more. Only Trump really proposes to reverse it.
Good post.
You are absolutely right.
My opinion is, unfortunately, that Trump is callously using these people and we are seeing the greatest bait and switch of all time.
But let’s say I am wrong.
What is Trump going to do to address the problems?
Because they’re fed up with one party (there is no two parties) imperialism and BS?
340,000 anchor babies born each and every year. Enough!
New activism two point vanity.
I doubt the situation is much different than in the rest of the USA...
Our niece moved to Sonoma, CA from North Carolina to take a marketing job with one of the major local wineries. She bought a 2,500sf home out of foreclosure. We had to help her “rehab” it so she could move in. It sold pre-2007 to four or five Mexican “illegal” families for $750,000. When it got to be worth only half of that, they bailed on the mortgage. They had put up numerous interior walls to create sleeping rooms for lord know how many people (even divided the living room into to spaces and cut in a additional exterior window which you could see daylight around). It was so filthy that washing down the walls prior to painting wasn’t enough. I ended up spraying the entire interior with white primer with an airless to cover up the ground in filth. So I understand what you’re saying about their effect on everything. They are used to squallor so they are well able to continue to live in it here. The funny thing is that the local building department was clueless as to what they had done. None of the neighbors had ratted them out!
Maybe you should tell your friends the truth about Trump. He’s for touchback immigration of illegals. If he wins, he’s just going to say that it makes no sense to send them back home if we’re just going to let them back in again.
Cruz is going to send them home and tell them to get in the back of the line; and if they don’t go voluntarily, they will never get back in.
Thanks for that explanation.
Those are, however, symptoms of a greater problem. Immigrants who come here, work hard, and sacrifice are not an exception in our history, they are the norm. What you describe largely reflects the experience of my grandparents a hundred years ago - and your criticism echoes the criticism which each successive wave of immigrants experienced: the Germans, the Irish, the Italians, the Eastern Europeans, the Chinese, the Japanese - and more recently Hispanics and Haitians. Each was accused of taking someone else’s piece of the pie.
None of that is new. That has been the case when the population was 24 million in 1850 and the problem was the Irish, and it is the case now, with the population at 320 million. What is new, however, is an economy which has not grown significantly since the last recession. That is not the fault of immigrants, it is the fault of fiscal, tax, and regulatory policy by the Federal Government, specifically the Obama Administration, which has not only failed to create the conditions necessary for a robust recovery, but has in fact created conditions to ensure exactly the opposite result, a continuing economic malaise. Great work, Barry!
Motivated, hard working immigrants are a demographic necessity for us as a country, and not a bad thing. Policies which discourage assimilation are a bad thing, as are policies which fail to screen for immigrants who are productive and (other than in the case of illegal aliens, their presence here) law abiding.
Economic growth is an even bigger necessity for us as a country, and that is the real issue. Most of the other things people are talking about, like minimum wage, immigration, income distribution, etc are really driven by frustration at the lack of growth.
When I was a college student in the 1980s working my way through school in entry-level jobs, I never earned minimum wage. The de facto minimum wage was $2-$3 an hour higher, because a booming economy raised the market value of labor and generated enough jobs for anyone who wanted one (or in the case of me and many of my friends, two or more.) If we put in place growth-oriented policies in this country, we would see that level of growth again.
There are legitimate reasons to be concerned about the security of our borders, and the immigration issue. Should we build a fence, and do a better job patrolling our physical border? Of course. But 40% of illegals come here legally and overstay their visas, and a wall isn’t going to do anything to stop them. Should we have a way to legally permit some groups, like agricultural workers who follow the crops north and south of the border to be here legally? That would only reflect the realities of farming. Should we evaluate those who are here legally and illegally, and send those who commit crimes, and those who take welfare benefits, home? Absolutely. Those are all things we should do - but none of them addresses the real problem.
The real problem is a stagnant economy. People like Trump are selling economic scapegoating, not trying to solve the problem. His tariffs will not contribute to growth, nor will his spending plans, like replacing ObamaCare with “something terrific” - another government program. Those things hurt growth, and growth is the real cure.
I forgot to mention that FOL is owned by Berkshire Hathaway(Warren Buffett)and it was a coal fired plant.
This is the winning platform for the general.
Bernie Sanders is against free trade. Hillary isn’t.
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OK, but while Trump believes that corporate taxes are too high, he also believes that American workers’ wages are too high. How is this going to help your depressed area?