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How Should a Conservative Vote?
Townhall.com ^ | February 22, 2016 | Robert Charles

Posted on 02/22/2016 3:43:51 PM PST by Kaslin

Russell Kirk was a great American thinker of the last century - and giant of conservative thought. He was a student of the Founding Fathers, but also of their fathers, and of their mentors' mentors. He knew Edmund Burke's philosophy cold, and history's big lessons all the way back to Plato. Kirk hated "ruinous taxation," like Lecky, who wrote "Democracy and Liberty." Kirk hated "corrupt Washington," as Henry James, who wrote "Democracy." Kirk loved individual liberty and was a scholar of our Constitution's roots, including its "natural law" origins. Kirk was effectively the Father, or wise man, of modern conservatism.

So, what would this Father of modern conservatism - and a man who feared for America's future already in the 1950s - say about our current presidential primary race? He would celebrate our public concern, suspicions of power, and voting participation. But he would also shake his head at our impetuous behavior. He would worry aloud for us, as a society and as individuals. And he would warn us to stop and think.

This sage would ask us, before we cast our vote: 'Are you thinking hard about what you are doing, not just feeling the satisfaction of slashing at what is despised? Are you thinking about who can work within our complex constitutional system, to thoughtfully change what we do not like? Are you thinking about who personifies prudence - not the mad dash to a seemingly simple answer? Are you a real conservative, drawing your convictions from faith and duty, patience and history? Or are you just another French Revolutionary, willing to take the boat over the falls, destroying what we all value in the process? In short, are you thinking about who may lead wisely, not just with passion?'

If only this paragon of conservatism was alive today! Would he prefer indignant, irreverent, proudly outspoken and unapologetic Trump, or a patient, practiced, constitutionally-guided, but principled mover-and-shaker like Cruz? Would he prefer Rubio's fast-moving, ambitious, speed-skating - that rocket rise to power by someone young in nature? If we are true to our history, true to those who fought for it, true to the Founders and those who made today possible, what should we do?

To say what Kirk would advise right now is impossible. But there are hints. Actually, the billions of former Americans - and yes, there are now billions - who lived before us, left us hints. They were sometimes outspoken, more often kept their own counsel, did not opine on things they knew little about, were generally more quiet and judicious. They knew how to speak well, but also how to listen. They might have been entertained - if briefly - by Trump's style, but not for long. They preferred the workhorse to the show horse. They might have asked merriment of Cruz, but they would have appreciated his style, preparation and tempered personality. They were also young, like Rubio and Cruz, when they lived, when they wrote, when the fought, and often when they died.

What else do we know? The great American conservative thinkers of our past were respectful of THEIR past, and of the sacrifices made for them. They did generally NOT fling baseless insults. They were NOT generally arrogant. They did NOT pretend life's complexities, or fixing government's failures, was usually simple, quick or easy. They were NOT imprudent. Instead, they had the courage to speak, courage to listen, and embodied responsibility - that is, prudent thinking.

So, back to Kirk. If Kirk were our guide, what would he say today? Maybe these words - his own words - give us the best hint: "Conservatives are guided by their principle of prudence ... Burke agrees with Plato that in the statesman, prudence is chief among virtues." Why? Because national security, national survival, the economy and respect for each other all depend on good judgment, prudence.

What other hints did Kirk leave? He said: Keep your eyes on "long run consequences" and not just "temporary advantage or popularity." Why? Because "liberals and radicals ... are imprudent." You will know their nature because "they dash at their objectives without giving much heed to the risk of new abuses worse than the evils they hope to sweep away." Interesting point, cautionary.

To this, he added: "Human society being complex, remedies cannot be simple if they are to be effective." So, maybe we need more strategy and depth, complexity and thinking, not so many simple promises. Maybe we should wonder about a feel-good pledge of walls built and paid for by others, indefinite bans on people from away, the odd contradiction of support and opposition to groups and causes. Perhaps we need to stop and ask what lies behind the words. What is the meaning of these words? If unclear, maybe we should dare to doubt.

The great American conservative ended a section of one relevant book this way: "The conservative ... acts only after sufficient reflection, having weighed the consequences...Sudden and slashing reforms are as perilous as sudden and slashing surgery... The march of providence is slow; it is the devil who always hurries." And so, from our past, we get a guide to our future. We are warned to be prudent, unhurried, look for depth and mastery of complex, constitutional and inherently unsettled events. Beware the glad-hander with simple answers to hard questions. Walk a wide circle around those who pledge easy ways to get up a steep hill, or who slap your back and berate others, always boasting.

It's time for American Conservative voters - indeed for all Americans - to stop laughing, slapping backs, and start thinking - hard now. We must navigate these treacherous times, around these treacherous falls, not go over them. That might be Kirk's counsel to us, and the word of caution from all who brought us painfully, slowly, prudently here. The pumped-fist of populism is never prudence. Sometimes an American leader must have mastery of the Constitution, of the Congress and Supreme Court, of the complex - in order to succeed. I leave it to the reader to assess who that candidate this year may be - but in all events, think about it. The stakes are high. From some distant and ethereal ridge, around some far and unfathomable bend, our ancestors may yet be watching. It is all on us now.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservative; fortedcruz; russelkirk; trumpisconservative; voting
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Agree


21 posted on 02/22/2016 4:01:47 PM PST by theoilpainter
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To: Kaslin

No battle plan survives the first shot intact.

We’ve been shot at for 230 years. The Founders wouldn’t even recognize what passes for the Constitution today.

When you can’t run, you walk. When you can’t walk, you crawl.

Purity is necessary to pass college tests. The enemy passed those same tests. Not being able to find perfect candidate is not an accident.

Patton had poor social skills. He also had a foul mouth.

Muslims want you dead - now.

Democrats want to bring in millions more Muslims.

Do the math.


22 posted on 02/22/2016 4:02:49 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: theoilpainter
My national vote means nothing anymore......

Four fake, dead or illegal votes will take me 4 to 1.....

My primary vote is a joke...the "race" is over...by the time I can vote.

We are saddled fresh...and put away wet.

I think...I will be totally screwed by Trump, and or Rubio, Cruz...I trust no one...running. I trust Trump the least...

They all will game the system...None of them can be believed..and when they are called on it..they will become uber politicians...The things we've heard over and over, and over again...!!

I've gone to believing in myself..and my family..and close friends. They I can believe..and trust.

23 posted on 02/22/2016 4:02:55 PM PST by Osage Orange (Nowadays we are just Central America with snow.)
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To: Kaslin

No battle plan survives the first shot intact.

We’ve been shot at for 230 years. The Founders wouldn’t even recognize what passes for the Constitution today.

When you can’t run, you walk. When you can’t walk, you crawl.

Purity is necessary to pass college tests. The enemy passed those same tests. Not being able to find perfect candidate is not an accident.

Patton had poor social skills. He also had a foul mouth.

Muslims want you dead - now.

Democrats want to bring in millions more Muslims.

Do the math.


24 posted on 02/22/2016 4:03:08 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: soycd

It’s very unpopular to say but you are right.

The Constitution says natural born citizen and it comes before any one man.

Born here of citizen parents.

Sorry if it hurts anyone’s feelings that your guy isn’t one, but Barry Soeotoro should be proof enough of the wisdom of the requirement of someone who is solely a US citizen and nothing else.
He told us he was born a British Subject.
Who believes the founders would have thought him eligible?


25 posted on 02/22/2016 4:04:36 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Raycpa

Pencil marks can be erased by someone however


26 posted on 02/22/2016 4:04:40 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: Kaslin
If the so-called conservatives had not stayed home in the general elections of 2008 and 2012 that arrogant pos occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania would have never been elected or reelected

I disagree. Every one of them could have voted, and the election would have turned out the same, imho.

27 posted on 02/22/2016 4:06:38 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I could not have said it any better as you did.


28 posted on 02/22/2016 4:07:11 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: soycd

Anti-mozlem and anti-international trade treaties that impoverish the US and subject us to foreign laws.


29 posted on 02/22/2016 4:07:44 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue Ht the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Kaslin
Decide exactly what it is you're trying to conserve.

Vote for the candidate that stands to cost you the least of that.

30 posted on 02/22/2016 4:07:49 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Kaslin
A Conservative, as any voter, should vote for whoever they want to vote for, and unless they feel the need to divulge, it`s nobody else`s business but that voter`s. In other words it`s a noneya, yeah, none ya business!
31 posted on 02/22/2016 4:08:09 PM PST by nomad
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To: Kaslin

Isn’t this article going to be totally irrelevant to the overwhelming majority of Trumpsters?

“Conservatism” would seem to mean nothing to most of these kind souls, who fall metaphorically on their knees to worship a Man on a White Horse, a Dear Leader who will solve our complex problems with his magic elixir of insults, profane bullying and a skilled bluster he has perfected via years of acting on “reality” TV.

Still, thanks for posting. I always enjoy learning more about Russell Kirk.


32 posted on 02/22/2016 4:08:57 PM PST by Hawthorn
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

“That’s 720 degrees away from Sanders.”

LOL, 720 degrees... so basically the SAME point. Are you admitting that Trump is basically same as Sanders with extra loop(hole)s?


33 posted on 02/22/2016 4:09:41 PM PST by sagar (3 way race; cranky populist - Trump/Sanders, establishment - Hillary/Roobio, conservative - Cruz!)
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To: Kaslin
From Russell Kirk's wiki page:

Kirk developed six "canons" of conservatism, which Russell (2004) described as follows:

Russel Kirk and Robert George were of the same mind when it comes to natural law, and Robert George was Ted Cruz's thesis advisor at Princeton.

34 posted on 02/22/2016 4:10:23 PM PST by Slyfox (Ted Cruz does not need the presidency - the presidency needs Ted Cruz)
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To: fireman15

Exactly. Right now there are people claiming to be “Conservative” while supporting religious charities trying to bring more of these illegal democrat and religiously retarded welfare seeking trash.


35 posted on 02/22/2016 4:10:41 PM PST by soycd
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To: Talisker

Vote for Trump and make America great again. :-)


36 posted on 02/22/2016 4:13:17 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Kaslin

Robert Charles channeling Russell Kirk, who says “I May Be Dead, But Vote for Ted”.
http://townhall.com/columnists/robertcharles/
I suppose he’s hoping for another appointment from Uniparty’s GOP faction.
Bob that is.


37 posted on 02/22/2016 4:13:18 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Trump supports border security, trade, and defeating Islamists. That's 720 degrees away from Sanders.

Donald Trump: Here's the one area where Bernie Sanders and I agree

Donald Trump said Sunday that there's one issue on which he and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont) agree: trade. . .

38 posted on 02/22/2016 4:13:36 PM PST by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: Kaslin
an American leader must have mastery of the Constitution, of the Congress and Supreme Court, of the complex - in order to succeed. I leave it to the reader to assess who that candidate this year may be - but in all events, think about it.

It's been known since the Declaration of Independence that the basic fundamental principle of rational politics is protection and preservation of natural rights.

39 posted on 02/22/2016 4:14:13 PM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

You do know that’s the same direction as Sanders, right?
Just checking.


40 posted on 02/22/2016 4:14:36 PM PST by vpintheak (Freedom is not equality; and equality is not freedom!)
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