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Trump Needs His 'Own Damn Bucket' to Waterboard: Ex-CIA Chief
NBC ^ | 2/22/16 | Ken Dilanian

Posted on 02/22/2016 2:22:53 PM PST by don-o

If Donald Trump is serious about wanting to waterboard terrorists, he'd better bring his own bucket, former CIA director Michael Hayden says, because the CIA isn't going down that road again.

Hayden's pithy line, which he first uttered in a Showtime documentary and repeated to NBC News, underscores a serious issue: the GOP frontrunner has vowed to bring back torture if he becomes president, but current and former CIA officials say the agency feels so burned by what happened when its post 9/11 interrogation program was exposed that it would refuse any such orders.

"Multiple investigations, grand juries, presidential condemnations, and congressional star chambers have a way of doing that to you," Hayden, who was CIA director at the end of the George W. Bush administration, told NBC News.

He then offered an even stronger version of his Showtime quote. "Like the man said, if you want somebody waterboarded, bring your own damn bucket."

Trump said Wednesday he is convinced that "torture works," so he would bring back waterboarding and "much stronger" methods. Other Republican candidates haven't been as explicit, but some have called for bringing back the harsh interrogations that were repudiated by President Obama when he

took office.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: boohoo; ciakma
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To: trisham

Well, Presidential removal power is murky at best because it isn’t expressly stated in the Constitution. They report to him and my guess is if he wanted to, he probably could remove at least a top official.


81 posted on 02/22/2016 3:32:13 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: don-o

Shhh, nobody tell Hayden about Ballanco

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3400214/posts?page=7

...placed a metal pin in his hands and feet to bind them. Using a chain, he was suspended one metre above the ground, hands and feet tied behind the back. “Like a bag,”...


82 posted on 02/22/2016 3:33:33 PM PST by Steven Tyler
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To: colorado tanker

There you go, using logic on all the armchair 24 Agents here...

I don’t think Hayden was going after Trump so much, as much as he was going against all the so “Shocked there’s gambling going on here” Washington establishment types, led by the democrat party press.


83 posted on 02/22/2016 3:34:01 PM PST by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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To: GraceG

Ouch!


84 posted on 02/22/2016 3:35:55 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal (What to do? Vote for a Dominionist or an Atheist?)
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To: don-o

Yeah, Mikie, Trump can do that

He’s got union guys from New Jersey to bid on the bucket contract


85 posted on 02/22/2016 3:43:10 PM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: don-o

Here’s an idea. Trump can bring his own damn bucket and water board the head of the CIA and find out every thing they know about Obama that they’ve kept secret.


86 posted on 02/22/2016 3:45:58 PM PST by VerySadAmerican
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To: Cboldt
-- So Trump is promising to order someone to carry out an illegal act? Isn't that about the size of it? -- Yep. That's the size of it, if you take his remarks as a promise. Definitely a murky area of law, both domestic and international. IIRC, the Bush administration put up some resistance to legislation in this area.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bush-vetoes-bill-banning-torture/

Excuse me. Congress passing a law means nothing if it is vetoed by the President.

87 posted on 02/22/2016 3:58:13 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! - already voted for Trump 2016 & Dude, Cruz ain't bona fide)
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To: higgmeister; don-o
-- Excuse me. Congress passing a law means nothing if it is vetoed by the President. --

Especially not then! Thanks for the correction.

88 posted on 02/22/2016 4:01:53 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: don-o

I’m sure plenty of Americans would send him more than enough of buckets.


89 posted on 02/22/2016 4:04:11 PM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: don-o

He’s just a bureaucrat ... replace him and move on.


90 posted on 02/22/2016 4:11:28 PM PST by The Duke ( Azealia Banks)
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To: Jim 0216

Yes:

The Director of National Intelligence (DNI) is the United States government official - subject to the authority, direction, and control of the President - required by the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 to:

Serve as principal advisor to the President, the National Security Council, and the Homeland Security Council about intelligence matters related to national security;
Serve as head of the sixteen-member United States Intelligence Community; and
Direct and oversee the National Intelligence Program.

Source: Wikipedia


91 posted on 02/22/2016 4:12:07 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Cboldt

de nada


92 posted on 02/22/2016 4:33:49 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! - already voted for Trump 2016 & Dude, Cruz ain't bona fide)
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To: don-o

I have no doubt that Trump would gladly do so.


93 posted on 02/22/2016 4:52:32 PM PST by Aleya2Fairlie
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To: don-o

The CIA thinks it is it’s own government. Disloyal as hell.


94 posted on 02/22/2016 4:53:37 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: don-o

There are things we do there - in war.


95 posted on 02/22/2016 4:55:30 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: MNJohnnie

No, he is saying that his people were placed in criminal jeopardy when Obama was elected, even though they had acted lawfully during the GW Bush administration, and that no one in the intel community will take that personal chance again. If Trump is elected he will likely find himself unable to deliver on this promise.

This is the sort of thing that happens when people jump on the “Bush lied, people died” bandwagon.


96 posted on 02/22/2016 4:57:09 PM PST by HoustonSam
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To: aumrl

You don’t really think he’s going to do what he’s promised do you?? That would be sophomoric to believe that....


97 posted on 02/22/2016 5:00:52 PM PST by kjam22 (America needs forgiveness from God..... even if Donald Trump doesn't)
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To: Alas Babylon!

I agree; I think that was what he was doing.


98 posted on 02/22/2016 5:33:59 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: kjam22

why not?
why?
we already know how career politicians keep their promises

why do you trust the people that live off the rest of us more than a businessman?


99 posted on 02/22/2016 5:36:33 PM PST by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: aumrl
a businessman?

You mean a shady real estate mogul, casino operator?

100 posted on 02/22/2016 5:45:44 PM PST by kjam22 (America needs forgiveness from God..... even if Donald Trump doesn't)
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