[HiTech RedNeck]

This is in an environment where Trump hasn't debatedmud stomped either yet. He's coming up as a tabula rasa in these hypothetical polls. They mean nothing and I believe you already know that anyhow.

[nathanbedford]

Of course they are less than meaningful but they are data and they do provide a starting point, as such they are more valuable than our (yours or mine) naked assertions.