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Marco Rubio on Immigration Reform: ‘We’re Not Going to Ram It Down Your Throat’
Breitbart ^ | February 12, 2016 | Charlie Spierling

Posted on 02/12/2016 10:14:45 AM PST by C19fan

During town hall meetings in South Carolina yesterday, Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL)79% was asked about stopping the flow of illegal immigrants into the United States.

In response, Rubio repeated his usual list of policy proposals to fix the border, citing plans for mandatory E-verify and an entry-exit tracking system for visas, and additional walls and fencing. He also repeated his promise to secure the border before addressing the problem of what to do with illegal immigrants who are here.

But Rubio added a new promise to any notion of immigration reform under his presidency: We won’t ram it down your throat like President Obama.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016; aliens; potus; rubio; rubio2016; rubioamnesty; rubioimmigration
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To: C19fan

Yeah, Mario, I really believe you .... NOT.

1, Close off all immigration for five years, or until the U.S. gets its immigration situation under control.
2. Have the USBP and ICE enforce our immigration laws.
3. Build the border fence.
4. Find and deport all those people who have overstayed their Visas.
5. Find and deport illegal aliens and deport them AND their families.
6. All employers MUST verify the citizenship of their employees or get fined and go to jail — not the HR guy, but the boss of the company.
7. Cut down H-1B Visas by 75%.
8. Deport 9 of 10 Muslim immigrants back to the ME.
9. Close all mosques and deport all the Imams.

These are simple things that would be a good start for the next POTUS. That, and to admit to Americans that America is at WAR with Islam and we will destroy its militant sponsors and fighters like we destroyed the Nazis.


41 posted on 02/12/2016 10:52:16 AM PST by MasterGunner01 ( To err is human, to forgive is not our policy -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: C19fan
We're Not Going to Ram It Down Your Throat'

Tried that already.
42 posted on 02/12/2016 10:58:48 AM PST by texas_mrs
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To: C19fan

Yep cause he already tried once.


43 posted on 02/12/2016 11:04:37 AM PST by sheana
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To: C19fan

Of course not! They’re going to shove it up our ash!


44 posted on 02/12/2016 11:05:39 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: C19fan

He said a different thing on Univision it was reported, I guess they can say that was a translation error. (/s)


45 posted on 02/12/2016 11:05:41 AM PST by BeadCounter (,)
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To: C19fan

So what changed? He was prepared to ram it down our throats with the Gang of Eight.

A carefully calibrated speech to commit himself to nothing (note the strawmen—”We’re not going to go around handing out citizenship cards”—of course, noone expects that of even Obama. But that lets him issue cards “in a common-sense, orderly manner” without breaking his promise).


46 posted on 02/12/2016 11:27:35 AM PST by ModelBreaker (')
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To: C19fan

I know lazy limousine liberals want to keep their illegal maids and gardeners.

Here’s what I propose:
I’m prepared to alter the Constitution to permit just one more “amnesty” and to legalize the 1986 “amnesty” provided in return that:
1. the citizenship by birth in USA clause of Amendment XIV is voided and every child born in the USA after today shall have the citizenship of their mother. Any Congress may authorize for its term and for one year thereafter that each child covered by its law to be treated as if it has the citizenship of its father, provided its father has for at least four years (or until the death of its mother) shared custody, child raising and financial child support responsibilities with its mother.
2. federal court/judicial jurisdiction is purely limited to cases in which the federal government or a US accredited foreign diplomat is the plaintiff or the defendent
3. equal rights for an equal number of Americans at any time to reside, own/run/franchise businesses (not involving national defense/law enforcement), own/rent/buy/sell property, use the legal system(s) are provided by treaty with each nation whose scofflaws are to be allowed to stay in the USA
4. no federal or state tax credit shall be refundable
5. a Constitutional amendment imposes permanent protective tax, fee, penalty and benefit caps:
a. an annual cap of $200 per finished/cooled/heated/plumbed room (halved for half-baths and obvious laundry rooms) [$0 on foyers, atriums, hallways, stairwells, closets, pantries, vehicular garages, lanais, porches] on total residential property taxation
b. for any person or entity (within any jurisdiction), 8% on total state (and local) income taxation
c. 8% total maximum on excise, sales and use taxes of all types, excluding those on telecom services and devices, tobacco, recreational drugs and alcoholic beverages, with federal excise taxation priority
d. no new federal taxes, imposts, payment or purchase mandates
e. total recording fees, charges and imposts capped at $50/instrument ($100/per real property sale/transfer) per property
f. total impact and all other development and construction related related fees, charges, taxes and imposts shall be capped at $5,000/housing unit and $2/square foot of enclosed non-residential space
g. $8,000 per person in total annual governmental benefits less income taxes paid by the recipient in the prior calendar year, excluding basic K-12 education, all current FICA/Medicare tax funded benefits and 90% of other medical benefits
h. at the federal level, for all recipents, total federally funded annual benefits in excess of direct federal income taxes paid by each recipient in the prior calendar year shall not exceed $300 billion in total per fiscal year, excluding general workmens’ comp identical benefits and medical benefits for people over age 65
i. within each state, for all recipents, total annual state (and local) funded personal/household/family benefits in excess of direct state (and local) income taxes paid by each recipient in the prior calendar year shall not exceed $500 per state resident on average per calendar year, excluding medical benefits for people over age 65 and basic K-12 education
j. with respect to each state, for all persons and entities, total federal fines, penalties, punative imposts and court/legal system charges and fees shall not exceed $50 on average per state resident per calendar year, any yearly excess to permanently reduce the federal tax cap percentages/amounts by 1/100
k. with respect to each state, for all persons and entities, total state (and local) fines, penalties, punative imposts/judgements and court/legal system charges and fees shall not exceed $150 on average per state resident per calendar year, any yearly excess to permanently reduce the state’s tax cap percentages/amounts by 1/100
l. incarcerations may only be paid for from general income/sales taxation
m. no prisoner nor any relative may be charged for incarceration or any related government (authorized) activity
n. except in criminal cases involving death or alledged white collar crime or a previous bail jumper, bail may be obtained by its owner tendering as security real property in the state where the court is that was taxed at over $599 in its last property tax year
o. with respect to any former government employee/member/associate/paid worker, total government retirement and disability benefits shall be capped at $30,000 per calendar year and $1 million in total, excluding Medicare/Medicaid/general workmens’ comp and totally identical equivalent benefits

For any federal income tax period:

Federal income tax from 12% to 30% on any person or entity to be solely useable per federal statutory law to pay for the military, defense, maritime rescue, law enforcement (including border security and deportation), courts and other judicial bodies and related personnel, federal prisons, federal administration, executive branch, care of federal personnel injuries in the line of duty, “post” roads/bridges/tunnels, but not for any form of welfare/unearned benefit/purchase subsidy

Federal income tax [FICA + Medicare + general] of up to 12% on any person or entity to be useable under federal statutory law for:
1. old age pensions[Social Security, etc.]
2. disability help (limited to no more than ten million persons/$50 billion in a fiscal year) for US citizens over age 18 not capable of substantial gainful employment because of their disability
3. medical (and dental) care/products that are truly necessary/appropriate in the eyes of the vast majority of knowledgeable doctors and reasonably priced and health insurance subsidies of all types provided under federal law
4. housing aid for US housing of low/moderate cost (for no more than twelve million units in a month/$60 billion in a fiscal year) for American citizen adults (and their dependents)
5. food aid (limited to no more than $50 billion in a fiscal year) for low-income American citizens

Federal income tax above 30% on any person or entity to be solely useable to pay off now existing federal debt or that refinanced, or the excess above 30% shall be refunded to the taxpayer if not so used within one year of receipt.

Dollar amounts may be appropriately adjusted by Congress, up to 3%, for inflation in a prior calendar year.

We need to insist on permanently reining in the tax and welfare systems of the US by Constitutional amendment before ensuring a permanent Democratic voting majority, probably Obama’s dearest dream.

A 90% tax rate on high incomes and large estates is only a few million Democratic votes away. Cheap labor can be very expensive.


47 posted on 02/12/2016 11:28:21 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: C19fan

LOL Not down your throat, but up your kazoo!


48 posted on 02/12/2016 11:35:15 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: vette6387

Great lie .. bit it won’t float.

Cruz does not support Amnesty .. and you know that.


49 posted on 02/12/2016 11:39:42 AM PST by CyberAnt ("The Fields are White Unto Harvest")
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To: The Final Harvest

“Cruz does not support Amnesty .. and you know that.”

I only know he “CURRENTLY SAYS” he doesn’t support amnesty. But he’s been caught in so many lies recently, I have no reason to believe what he “SAYS!”
Cruz comes off to me as just another “trickbag conservative” who says what he thinks he needs to say to fool the voters into voting for him. Anyway, we will see soon won’t we?


50 posted on 02/12/2016 11:56:33 AM PST by vette6387
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To: Carthego delenda est

Wait! Think for a minute. We can’t possibly just round up and deport 20 illegals(not the 11 million figure the media has been using for ten years now- there must be at least 4-5 million in Texas alone.)And why can’t we do this? Because our youth have become complacent and would rather be texting or hanging out than working. Who do you think is going to do all the work? If illegal workers and sons/daughters of them were rounded up, most every restaurant in the US would close down. Who’s going to work on the roads, pick vegetables, do roofing and other hard labor jobs? Who? Our entire economy would come off the rails instantly if this was done, so somebody had better make sensible and not emotional efforts to work this out. If the government would stop offering government candy to illegals, they would self-deport. And a wall would keep them from coming back. And who among the candidates would be most likely to stop the government giveaways? My guess is Cruz. Maybe Trump or Rubio. Probably none of the rest. Certainly not Jeb.

Trump says he brought about the immigration debate. Funny, I remember that being one of the most common subjects of debates in the 2012 election among Republicans. Many of the candidates said even then that stopping illegal welfare, enforcing current laws, enforcing an e-verify system, beefing up the border security, building a wall and deporting criminals, etc.would work. Unfortunately,many people who are now so freaked out sat home and didn’t vote, so we got the Obama welcome mat rolled out to induce even more illegal immigration. No way Romney would have been even a fraction as hideous as Barry has been.

One thing for sure: if we want to do something about all these festering problems which have become worse since THE ONE occupied the White House, we’d better support the Republican candidate, whoever he is. The only candidate completely unacceptable to me is Jeb, who the liberals want to win because they know he would be easiest to defeat.


51 posted on 02/12/2016 11:57:34 AM PST by Doche2X2
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To: C19fan
But Rubio added a new promise to any notion of immigration reform under his presidency: We won't ram it down your throat like President Obama.

No reform required just continue what is already happening, and the Republic is still dead.

52 posted on 02/12/2016 12:03:16 PM PST by itsahoot (1st impression. Trump is a fumble mouthed blowhard that can't speak in complete sentences. VoteTrump)
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To: itsahoot

We the GOPe and the Democrats will both ram it down your throats.

Abran sus bocas.


53 posted on 02/12/2016 12:09:23 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: vette6387

It is one thing for a politician to flip-flop on issues. Robot Rubio, however, acted. He worked hard to pass amnesty. And this form a guy who does not bother to show up for important Senate votes.


54 posted on 02/12/2016 12:13:22 PM PST by apocalypto
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To: C19fan
Marco Rubio on Immigration Reform: ‘We’re Not Going to Ram It Down Your Throat’

Instead, we will carefully pry open your mouth and then slowly pour it down your throat.

55 posted on 02/12/2016 12:19:03 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom
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To: C19fan

I believe him,he won’t ram it down our throats,he will once again join the democrats and RINO Republicans in Congress who have wanted amnesty since George W Bush was President,so it will be a bipartisan screwing of America.
This Rubio is a ,Slimey greasy Fraud


56 posted on 02/12/2016 12:21:30 PM PST by ballplayer (hvexx NKK c bmytit II iyijjhihhiyyiyiyi it iyiiy II i hi jiihi ty yhiiyihiijhijjyjiyjiiijyuiiijihyii)
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To: C19fan

There’s a joke in there for cabana boy bubbles Rubio.


57 posted on 02/12/2016 12:22:30 PM PST by Original Lurker
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To: C19fan

Translation: We’re going to pass it in the middle of the night on Friday on a Holiday weekend, by voice vote


58 posted on 02/12/2016 12:48:16 PM PST by Domandred (Tea Party or Third Party. Done with the capitulating eGOP.)
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To: Doche2X2

I disagree with your precept of doom and gloom if all the illegals were not here to ‘do the jobs that Americans refuse to do’. There’s around 50 million people on food stamps right now. (Many of them are probably illegals.) There’s many many on the multitude forms of welfare. There’s PLENTY of jobs for all these people who are not working for some reason or another. The millions of illegals, working for dirt wages is the primary problem. If all those youth who you say are sitting around playing video games no longer received their handouts, (as well as all the others), had to find a way to support themselves, there’d be plenty of workers to do those so called jobs Americans won’t do. It’s a relatively new phenomenon to have millions of illegals in our country. It’s because they came here illegally that they can be taken advantage of and work for so little. They directly effect me. I’ve lost so much work through the years in construction because a wetback is there to do it for wages far far less than what the going rate had been. They have totally screwed up wages for most agricultural, construction, food industry, and other blue collar and ‘unskilled labor’ jobs. Not only did they upset price rates, but they took the actual jobs. I have a hard time blaming some of the unemployed for not wanting to take menial jobs that are paying so little in this country, but pays very well to an illegal that came from a country where the same job paid a tenth of what it does here.

If employers were heavily fined for hiring illegals, and absolutely no tax payer funded benefits were given to them, they would self deport rapidly. This self deportation actually started to happen as our economy went to hell. The cheap labor express and the democrats who WANT the cheap labor and new voters have a *new* plan. Since the Mexicans said it was t worth it to stay here, the cheap labor forcE’s and democrats have now started bringing in more Central Americans from counties that have an even worse economy and even worse government than Mexico. They are determined to undermine our economy and our borders. Marco Rubio is nothing more than a puppet for these folks. He’s the GOPe version of Obama, and I will not vote for him. No, it has nothing to do with a ‘purity test’, but rather it’s about the pace in which our country is being destroyed. Rubio represents the slow destruction and the dems always represent the fast track destruction. I will not vote for either. I WILL throw the dice and take Trump at his word that he genuinely wants to make America great again. To a lesser degree I’d vote for Cruz in hopes that he can’t be taken over by the establishment, but the more I learn about him the less I like him. He was my first choice initially, but I, like Palin and others, have found that betting on Trump is more likely to bring about a better results. I am entitled to think that way, and the resulting insults from the opposition do nothing to change that other than making their candidate even less appealing. Rubio sours my stomach. He’s pathetic.


59 posted on 02/13/2016 9:41:14 AM PST by Carthego delenda est
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To: Doche2X2

“Who’s going to work on the roads, pick vegetables, do roofing and other hard labor jobs? Who?”

That’s exactly what I’ve spent my life doing, until now, more and more, I lose those jobs to illegals. Frankly, you’re very insulting.


60 posted on 02/13/2016 9:43:29 AM PST by Carthego delenda est
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