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Yellen on negative rates: 'We wouldn't take those off the table' (Recession & pay fee to save money)
CNBC ^ | 11 Feb 16 | Jeff Cox

Posted on 02/11/2016 9:40:48 AM PST by xzins

As recession fears mount in the U.S., Fed Chair Janet Yellen conceded there's a "chance" of a downturn ahead.

Asked by Republican Sen. Bob Corker whether the monetary policy-making Federal Open Market Committee would consider going to negative interest rates, which would entail charging banks to store reserves at the Fed, Yellen left the door open. She repeated a statement she said Wednesday that the Fed had considered negative rates in 2010 but decided that wouldn't be the best course at that time.

"We wouldn't take those off the table, but we have work to do to judge whether they would be workable here," she said.

Banks currently have $2.27 trillion in reserves at the Fed, compared to the required $117.3 billion required. The Fed pays a 0.5 rate on those deposits.

Toomey also questioned whether a negative IOER rate would end up seeing savers pay a fee to keep money at banks. Yellen said she does not believe that is the case of the European countries where it has been tried.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: economy; negativerates; recession; yellen
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To: ridesthemiles

Yep. That is why they want to get rid of cash.


101 posted on 02/12/2016 7:36:17 AM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: ridesthemiles

Yep. That is why they want to get rid of cash.


102 posted on 02/12/2016 7:36:21 AM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: xzins

BTTT


103 posted on 02/12/2016 8:10:41 AM PST by griffin
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To: xzins
Her boss, Odumbshit says everything is rainbows and unicorns while she says negative interest cannot be ruled out to stop a recession (depression) from happening.

WOW, someone got it way fricking wrong.

104 posted on 02/12/2016 9:07:31 AM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: driftdiver
They are also moving to discourage, if not an outright ban the use of cash

Exactly. They want a cashless society. Part of the Agenda21 where people are moved into "communities" and there is no rural areas.

All is supplied by government so no need for funds, cash or private metals.

105 posted on 02/12/2016 9:11:04 AM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: Brian Griffin
Personally, I’ve already thought about burying money in PVC pipe

Thought, hell.......accomplished

106 posted on 02/12/2016 9:14:34 AM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: xzins

The reason she’s not taking it off the table is because we will be there by the end of the year. Buy fractional gold and junk silver.


107 posted on 02/12/2016 11:31:21 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

or farmland with water


108 posted on 02/12/2016 11:32:38 AM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: xzins

There is that too. :-)


109 posted on 02/12/2016 11:55:08 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

what do you mean by fractional


110 posted on 02/12/2016 11:55:51 AM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: xzins

Like 1/10th of an oz, .25 of an oz. If things go south gold is going to be way too expensive to go to the grocery store with an oz of gold. You will want junk Silver, dimes, quarter, halves and dollars pre-1964.


111 posted on 02/12/2016 12:58:08 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: xzins
There were a couple of articles linked to by Drudge earlier this week asking whether or not the Fed has the authority to enact NIRP.

Bloomberg Business

MarketWatch

Curious I dug up the current amended version of The Federal Reserve Act of 1913.

I have been reading and, as you might expect it is dense, but so far I have found it to be riddled with phrase "not less than zero". It was amended at some point to clarify that the rate "may be zero" but they may be precluded by law from going negative.

An interesting footnote is that in 1922 Congress had to rewrite the Act to prevent Benjamin Strong, President of the NY Fed, from being indicted when he unofficially and unilaterally scrapped the gold standard and aggressively engaged in what the Fed now calls "open market operations" as a method for stabilizing prices and domestic economic stability. Congress obliged the Fed at the time but one can only wonder if they would be so accommodating for Ms. Yellen.

Short takeaway: expect a MAJOR lawsuit the moment the Fed tries to go negative, as well as a preliminary injunction to refrain from NIRP until a hearing can be held. No matter the initial outcome expect it to rocket up to the Supremes.

112 posted on 02/12/2016 3:26:43 PM PST by atomic_dog
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To: atomic_dog

The Supremes are political. They will do what their parties tell them to do. That means to me that they’ll approve anything the Fed says is ‘necessary’.

Negative interest rates seem to me to be a way to confiscate digits that are being held in their vaults. After all, you don’t park a car in a lot without expecting to pay, they will say.

To prevent a reversion to cash in safes, they’ll have to find an argument against cash. It will be “easily stolen”, I suppose.

Would they argue before Scotus that they are providing a parking location, and that a fee is not unrealistic at all?


113 posted on 02/12/2016 3:36:33 PM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: xzins

I did a little reading about topics closely related to negative interest rates and the paradigm toward abolition of cash. Here’s what I found out. The policy changes are for the purpose of the following.

* Driving savers away from saving and into debt.

* Monitoring all remaining kinds of funds and other properties of present and future debtors.

But the big surprise for many will come with realization of law and policy changes for creditors and lawyers.


114 posted on 02/12/2016 7:35:13 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in "Idiocracy")
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To: MortMan

This one is rough.

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/84a1ddc8-bce5-11e4-9902-00144feab7de.html


115 posted on 02/12/2016 7:58:09 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: xzins

It’s called THEFT.


116 posted on 02/12/2016 8:14:35 PM PST by Lera (1 Corinthians 15:3-4)
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To: Tzimisce
The government overspends and then blames us for not paying enough.

Like your servitude cannot be discharged until you have paid off your debt to the company store.

117 posted on 02/12/2016 8:23:42 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Lera

They will call it a fee. Watch.


118 posted on 02/13/2016 12:48:11 AM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: xzins

Yellen is nothing more than a dithering old fool from academia (Cal Berkley no less) She NEVER ran as much as a lemonade stand. Just another feel good hire, no doubt pushed by Odunga, as the first Women Fed. Chairmen. Or maybe Odunga just hates old white Jewish women, as she was doomed to failure.


119 posted on 02/13/2016 4:08:21 AM PST by DAC21 (.z)
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed

“Negative interest rates will cause a mass withdrawal of any monies left in the bank”

Along with the hope that the money will be spent to stimulate the economy. Who wants to stash it under the mattress with all the marauding gangs of Amish whom will add home invasion to their resumes after exodus of cash from the banks.


120 posted on 02/13/2016 4:22:08 AM PST by DAC21 (.z)
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