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Sanders And Trump Are The Same Totalitarian Candidate
The Daily Wire ^ | February 10, 2016 | Ben Shapiro

Posted on 02/11/2016 7:35:47 AM PST by newgeezer

On the surface, there's not much in common between New Hampshire GOP primary winner Donald Trump and Democratic primary winner Bernie Sanders. Trump is a billionaire businessman; Sanders is a career politician. Trump's personal favorability is the lowest of all candidates on either side; Sanders' is the highest. But the impulse that drove New Hampshire voters to the polls for Sanders is the same as the impulse that drove them to the polls for Trump: the desire for a powerful authority figure to fix everything using the power of government. In fact, before the New Hampshire primary, CNN reported, "Because independents can register as ‘undeclared' in New Hampshire and then vote in either party's primary, the Vermont senator's campaign has noted some of these voters are wavering between Sanders and Trump."

There's a reason for the confusion: Trump and Sanders aren't that different on policy. Really.

They're both anti-establishment candidates who bash Wall Street. Here's Trump from his victory speech last night:

Here's Sanders from his victory speech last night: Trump and Sanders are on the same page on trade, which they see as a zero sum game at which America is losing. Sanders has described trade with China as "catastrophic" for our economy. Days ago, Trump admitted that he and Sanders mirror each other on the topic: "The one thing we very much agree on is trade. We both agree that we are getting ripped off by China, by Japan, by Mexico, everyone we do business with."

Both Trump and Sanders want to do away with Obamacare in favor of a more universal system. Trump has been extraordinarily unclear on what he wants to replace Obamacare, but he vows that he'll stop the "insurance companies…getting rich on Obamacare" and ensure "we're going to take care of the people on the street dying."

Here's Sanders last night:

Both Sanders and Trump vow to enshrine programs like Medicare and Social Security. Here's Trump last year: Here's Sanders last night: And while Trump has run on the basis of a uniquely strict anti-illegal immigration policy, Sanders has historically opposed illegal immigration on the basis of driving down American wages: "Bring in all kinds of people, work for $2 or $3 an hour, that would be great for them. Real immigration reform puts the needs of working people first - not wealthy globetrotting donors." This is straight from the Trump playbook.

On foreign policy, too, Trump and Sanders sound alike. Here's Trump on the Iraq war from the last debate:

Back in October, Trump said we should let Russia handle ISIS, and added that he wanted to cut military spending. Here's Sanders from his speech last night: So why are Trump and Sanders soaring? Because they both represent a reaction to the corruption and entitlement culture of Washington D.C. - and both of those reactions are anti-democratic. Neither candidate ever talks about the proper role of government. They just talk about how they'll increase its power to use it for their own purposes.

That's what many of their supporters want. Many Trump supporters frequently comment that he "wins," that he will "win" for America, that he's capable of "making deals," that he's not beholden to anyone or anything. Sanders supporters say the same thing.

Many Trump supporters - the ones who believe he is a transformational figure - ignore the fact that Trump won't change the nature of government in any real way. They're looking for a singular authoritarian solution to the problems of their lives. They believe it takes a power broker to stop the power brokers. Hand Trump the ring of government power, and watch what he can do! He may not cast it into the fiery chasm from whence it came, but he'll use it to fight Mordor sometimes.

Sanders' supporters also object to a corrupt government - but they think that more government is the solution. They think the government is bought and paid for by outside parties, and they want an honest socialist dictator in charge to clean house. They want a Hugo Chavez to ride in on the wind and use the power of government to punish their enemies. Sanders may proclaim that his motivating feeling is hope, but the real motivation behind his campaign is bitter jealousy and petty vengefulness.

These are the wages of big government and an unendingly powerful executive branch. Too many people gain too much by its existence to do away with it; too many people want to control the guns and the money to back a true reformer. Every four years we now pick our dictator. It's just a question of whether that dictator does the stuff you want, or whether you're his target.


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1stcanadiansenator; clownsforcruz; cruzingtoclintonwin; cruzwhorship; failposting; gangof14; propagandadujour; tedspacificpartners
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To: don-o

“Of course it’s subjective. That is supposed to be a bad thing?”

It’s a bad thing when the author acts like they are a bastion of objectivity when their fallacies of cherry picking and too few alternatives are so easily seen.

It’s way to simplistic (blindered) to be taken seriously. Like a yappy dog barking at one tree thinking it’s the whole forest. It’s not the whole forest, and that is the fatal flaw.


41 posted on 02/11/2016 8:26:16 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: newgeezer

They do have a lot in common.

After 74 years of laying around and then, thanks to Ben and Jerry’s Peoples’ Republic of Vermont’ got into politics in time to get a pension.

His net worth is $66,000 and Donald’s is astronomical.


42 posted on 02/11/2016 8:29:31 AM PST by HomerBohn (Liberals and slinkies: they're good for nothing, but you smile as you shove them down the stairs.)
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw

The two of them are saying the same things. Trump may be a little more to the left.


43 posted on 02/11/2016 8:31:35 AM PST by exnavy (good gun control: two hands, one shot, one kill.)
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To: exnavy

LOL


44 posted on 02/11/2016 8:33:15 AM PST by woofie
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To: woofie

I’m just sayin....


45 posted on 02/11/2016 8:34:12 AM PST by exnavy (good gun control: two hands, one shot, one kill.)
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To: newgeezer

It’s like saying Bloomberg and the NRA are the same because both want fewer deaths caused by criminals.

Or that Occupy and the US Military are the same because both want to prevent wars...


46 posted on 02/11/2016 8:44:35 AM PST by GOPJ (Allowing illegals to stay in the U.S is like paying ransom to terrorists - an incentive for more)
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To: bray

I’ve been perusing these threads that all seem to devolve into Cruz vs Trump shouting matches and I agree that neither candidate is without fault.

However, the one thing I see from time to time is someone alluding to Cruz’ wife making money from Goldman Sachs. Your contribution is “Mrs Cruz making $750K per year is no problem right?”

What, exactly, is the problem with her making $750 per year?


47 posted on 02/11/2016 8:44:51 AM PST by Let_It_Be_So (Once you see the Truth, you cannot "unsee" it, no matter how hard you may try.)
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To: exnavy

I dont know why but your simple comment brightened my day

Thanks


48 posted on 02/11/2016 8:49:41 AM PST by woofie
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To: newgeezer

This article would carry more weight if people like Shapiro weren’t supporters of GOP establishment candidates like the Bushes. Those who defend Bush-style “compassionate conservatism” aren’t really in a position to attack anyone else for being an advocate of big government statism.


49 posted on 02/11/2016 8:52:55 AM PST by ek_hornbeck
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To: Let_It_Be_So
I've been perusing these threads that all seem to devolve into Cruz vs Trump shouting matches and I agree that neither candidate is without fault.

They do not devolve to that level.

It is planned that way, it is the sole reason for posting the article.

But, you know that, right?

50 posted on 02/11/2016 8:53:08 AM PST by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: newgeezer

Wow, Ben sure is busy with the Trump hit pieces. Keep trying Ben...something is sure to stick.

What a maroon!


51 posted on 02/11/2016 8:53:55 AM PST by Artcore
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To: going hot

All written works advocate in one way or another... So?
I think this author explained his thinking very well

Do you?


52 posted on 02/11/2016 8:56:03 AM PST by woofie
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To: going hot

Is the author of this piece even for Cruz? My guess is that it’s like the National Review anti-Trump special issue: party hacks posing as conservative purists when attacking Trump, when their real agenda is making sure a liberal establishment Republican gets the nomination. Then their ideological purity vanishes.


53 posted on 02/11/2016 8:58:06 AM PST by ek_hornbeck
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To: exnavy

I wish there was a way to unfriend here.


54 posted on 02/11/2016 8:58:14 AM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: woofie

I think the author is fishing for low intelligence mouth breathers and catching a few.


55 posted on 02/11/2016 8:59:50 AM PST by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: ek_hornbeck
The author could care less about Cruz, because in his eyes, Cruz is not in a position to pose a threat to the author's universe.

Trump is, and therefore needs to be destroyed.

That there are takers of his line, hook, bait and sinker, speaks to the reader's reasoning and mindset, not the author's.

56 posted on 02/11/2016 9:02:28 AM PST by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: newgeezer

Boring, mindless babble from a hysterical little twerp


57 posted on 02/11/2016 9:03:09 AM PST by stratboy
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw

There is a way just DON’T read the threads!!!!!


58 posted on 02/11/2016 9:04:17 AM PST by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: Artcore
Wow, Ben sure is busy with the Trump hit pieces. Keep trying Ben...something is sure to stick.

Isn't it ironic to see a Bush lapdog complain about some other candidate's lack of conservative ideological purity? It's doubly funny when that lapdog looks and sounds like a whiny grade-school kid.

59 posted on 02/11/2016 9:06:48 AM PST by ek_hornbeck
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To: going hot

And of course you and Trump can assure us that you are not low intelligence mouth breathers?


60 posted on 02/11/2016 9:12:34 AM PST by woofie
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