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Released felons gain right to vote in Maryland following veto override
The Baltimore Sun ^
| February 9, 2016
| Erin Cox
Posted on 02/09/2016 9:52:02 AM PST by House Atreides
The Maryland Senate narrowly overrode Gov. Larry Hogan's final veto from last year's General Assembly session, paving the way to reinstate voting rights to felons before they complete probation or parole.
The 29-18 vote on Tuesday puts the law on the books 30 days from now and represents a political defeat for Hogan, a Republican. The bill was the sixth that Hogan vetoed last year, and the sixth the Democrat-controlled General Assembly reinstated.
The vote, twice delayed in order to muster enough support, followed an expansive debate that touched on resolving racial disparities in the criminal justice system and protecting victims of violent crime. Proponents argued voting would help felons rejoin society. The current system requires felons to complete probation and parole before registering to vote. Supporters of the law said that process was confusing and demoralizing to people trying to rebuild their lives.
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To: Mr Apple
IYAS9YAS, what if with enough ex-cons voting, it tips the results in a referendum - changing the penalities for bank robbery for instance -to just 60 days in jail? Or, changing the penalities for the guy who rapes your mother on the kitchen floor IYAS9YAS - to just 90 days in jail. You ok with that?If that is the law. Then yes. Again, if you cannot trust these people in society based on their crimes and the punishment paid, then why are they living in society to begin with, and not still incarcerated? If you do not allow those who have paid for their crimes to live freely, then you create second-class status, and a subset of society that is no longer equal under the law.
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posted on
02/09/2016 12:33:23 PM PST
by
IYAS9YAS
(I got nothin'.)
To: Mr Apple
crunch the numbers .... forget the rhetoric about "all those" or "if every" .. or whatever
The released felonious criminal population compared to those that have no record are, by and large, very small
Laws placed upon laws within laws have made everybody a felon and all that is needed is for you to get caught and be tried
You may stay out of prison because yje charge was bogus ... but you're now a felon
THAT was the intent of that law passed in 1968 ( I forget what it is called ) ... but it's the one that forbade my 2nd ammendment rights ...
Which I don't need ...
'cause my guns lay at the bottom of a lake
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posted on
02/09/2016 12:38:23 PM PST
by
knarf
(I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
To: House Atreides
If you don’t trust them to vote, they should still be in prison.
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posted on
02/09/2016 12:39:23 PM PST
by
dfwgator
To: knownfact
It is the law and those laws were put there by people who dealt more harshly with felons than we do today.
If it isn’t right or just, it should be changed by lawful processes.
But I don’t support just giving them back as soon as their sentence is up, or if they have been out of jail for a year or whatever.
But if enough people disagree with me, they are welcome to engage the legislative process to do so, although I suspect what we see here in MD is not the will of the people, but the will of a portion of the legislature.
This is the same state that thought nothing about giving looters “space” to loot. I lived there for a few years and have spent time in it since then, and it isn’t my favorite place.
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posted on
02/09/2016 12:43:40 PM PST
by
rlmorel
("Irrational violence against muslims" is a myth, but "Irrational violence against non-muslims" isn't)
To: IYAS9YAS
What cha say about that IYAS9YAS? Are there any posters here still in favor of allowing excons the right to vote considering what is posted in #51??
Now, what if such a referendum happens to pass. And in an election it passes...do we want our mothers to be raped on the floor - with the penalty being just 90 days in jail? - - - I think Not!!
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posted on
02/09/2016 12:44:03 PM PST
by
Mr Apple
( google: JEFFREY EPSTEIN BILL 'TWITCHIN' HANDS CLINTON)
To: IYAS9YAS
Well, you better tell your mom to make sure she locks her doors. (btw, lots of towel head rafugees on the way, so says obama)
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posted on
02/09/2016 12:49:25 PM PST
by
Mr Apple
( google: JEFFREY EPSTEIN BILL 'TWITCHIN' HANDS CLINTON)
To: knownfact
Strange idea of Liberty you have there. Freedom for me but not for thee?
***********************************************************************
Well NOOB, did you sign up at Free Republic merely to focus attacks on Cruz & Trump?
To: knarf
crunch the numbers .... forget the rhetoric... Wait! What about that cold floor?? Huh. Want to take that chance??
Is your mom quick at running out of kitchens??
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posted on
02/09/2016 12:52:30 PM PST
by
Mr Apple
( google: JEFFREY EPSTEIN BILL 'TWITCHIN' HANDS CLINTON)
To: rlmorel
Having a population of people unable to participate in civic life does nothing to improve a place, just saying. Driving already marginalized people further from the mainstream of life does nothing except create alienation. I suppose after you’ve driven people to the margins, you can then condemn them for dwelling there, so that’s convenient.
To: FlingWingFlyer
“Hopefully, these felons’ Second Amendment rights are also ‘reinstated’ by these goofballs. Maryland ‘deserves’ it.”
That’s coming, I’m sure. That’s why I’m un-assing this d-bag state as soon as I can.
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posted on
02/09/2016 12:59:52 PM PST
by
PLMerite
(The Revolution...will not be kind.)
To: 21twelve
I think the 16 year old age has to do with the fact they are tax payers - at that age some teens have part time jobs. I would be OK with local elections open to 16 year olds - not life and death stuff like president or senator, etc. This way if kids vote for local dog catcher or if the park should have a dog walk, etc it will build civic responsibility and get the youth used to voting.
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posted on
02/09/2016 1:01:41 PM PST
by
Trumpinator
("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
To: knownfact
If you want it changed, change it.
If we enforced laws on the books, there might be less people driven to the margins, as you say.
So we have established there are certain “rights” under the Constitution that can be taken away, and for good reason.
You’re so passionate about it, do something.
I suppose you could exercise your civic rights to change laws, or you can condemn people who want people do abide by the laws, so that’s convenient.
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posted on
02/09/2016 1:06:46 PM PST
by
rlmorel
("Irrational violence against muslims" is a myth, but "Irrational violence against non-muslims" isn't)
To: NRx; IYAS9YAS; knarf
I don't even have to make any further posts against excons getting to vote.
I can go on to another thread now, and you three can read the KeyWords here and then give my queries more thought.
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posted on
02/09/2016 1:07:39 PM PST
by
Mr Apple
( google: JEFFREY EPSTEIN BILL 'TWITCHIN' HANDS CLINTON)
To: knownfact
Or you could sit on your rear end on Internet forums being a keyboard warrior and condemning people. That’s pretty easy too.
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posted on
02/09/2016 1:08:25 PM PST
by
rlmorel
("Irrational violence against muslims" is a myth, but "Irrational violence against non-muslims" isn't)
To: Mr Apple
Not only do I vote, I'm on the school board shutting down common core (as best I can having been elected after the fact)
But you don't have to worry about me having a gun ... it's at the bottom of a lake ...
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posted on
02/09/2016 1:11:13 PM PST
by
knarf
(I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
To: Mr Apple
there AREN’T “enough” ex-cons that even vote ( the kind you’re envisioning )... let alone tip the scales
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posted on
02/09/2016 1:12:56 PM PST
by
knarf
(I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
To: Trumpinator
“I would be OK with local elections open to 16 year olds - “
That’s a great idea. The one team was saying how “we let kids drive a car where they could kill somebody, voting isn’t dangerous”.
My daughter didn’t get to respond, but thought “Vote the wrong person in and you could kill millions!”
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posted on
02/09/2016 1:17:38 PM PST
by
21twelve
(http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
To: 21twelve
Yes - and for local small scale elections 16 years can vote can be seen as a form of training wheels for when they get older. So I am OK with some allowance for that.
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posted on
02/09/2016 1:20:50 PM PST
by
Trumpinator
("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
To: Mr Apple
Well, you better tell your mom to make sure she locks her doors. (btw, lots of towel head rafugees on the way, so says obama)Okay, thank you, bye-bye now.
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posted on
02/09/2016 1:29:54 PM PST
by
IYAS9YAS
(I got nothin'.)
To: knarf
"
a LOT of good Americans were made to be felons by stupid laws and bad jurisprudence over the years"
The Democrats' stealth gun control tactic is to make everyone a felon.
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posted on
02/09/2016 1:29:58 PM PST
by
T Ruth
(Mohammedanism shall be defeated.)
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