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Ted Cruz Wants To Raise Taxes On Your Grandma
Fortune.com ^ | February 2, 2016 | Chris "The Thrill" Matthews

Posted on 02/08/2016 7:00:17 PM PST by kiryandil

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To: WENDLE

That is his actual plan. the hidden VAT tax is supposed to make up for the revenue lost on the 10% flat tax. How do think think the feds would actually operate on a flat tax of 10% and nothing else. The business VAT could also be raised behind closed doors without much public awareness. It would be great for Cruz’s hedge fund donors.


41 posted on 02/08/2016 7:19:55 PM PST by Lagmeister ( false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders Mark 13:22)
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To: Charles Henrickson
This is "Breaking News"?? Not.

I didn't put it Breaking News.

I don't think I've put anything in Breaking News since 1998.

You actually have to GO to that section of the topics posting area and select it. I got my fill of being the first one on the trigger in the impeachment wars.

42 posted on 02/08/2016 7:23:21 PM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: Lagmeister

ok, I see what you are saying. That is not his intent IMO but run with that if you must. I am a Trump supporter but I want Cruz over ksick and Pu$$y.


43 posted on 02/08/2016 7:23:30 PM PST by WENDLE (Trump is not bought . He is no puppet.)
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To: Leto

Of course you didn’t notice the backdoor way of ending Social Security, right. That will go over big.


44 posted on 02/08/2016 7:24:19 PM PST by Lagmeister ( false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders Mark 13:22)
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To: Kenny
O'Reilly tonight said to look for national media to attack and destroy every single Republican candidate before it's over. They want Hillary.

I warned the cruzers about the Media DeathStar.

45 posted on 02/08/2016 7:24:25 PM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: blueplum

There isn’t any. It’s the backdoor way to bleed Social Security.


46 posted on 02/08/2016 7:26:18 PM PST by Lagmeister ( false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders Mark 13:22)
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To: kiryandil

Flat not VAT tax, you moron Matthews.


47 posted on 02/08/2016 7:26:23 PM PST by anymouse (God didn't write this sitcom we call life, he's just the critic.)
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To: All
Captain Tingle is a partisan hack and a liar. Obama could tax a hundred percent of the average citizen's income and Chrissy would pee himself and defend it.

But there are people here who hate Cruz so much they would post drivel from one of the press’ most craven idiots. I'm surprised more people aren't getting zotted these days.

48 posted on 02/08/2016 7:26:54 PM PST by Luke21
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To: JSDude1
Bullsht, and this is not "breaking news".

I didn't put it Breaking News.

I don't think I've put anything in Breaking News since 1998.

You actually have to GO to that section of the topics posting area and select it. I got my fill of being the first one on the trigger in the impeachment wars.

49 posted on 02/08/2016 7:27:15 PM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: kiryandil
For someone who is supposed to be "brilliant", Cruz is a MORON when it comes to financial matters, including his own, which he tries to hide and then LIES about!

A VAT STINKS ON ICE !

50 posted on 02/08/2016 7:27:19 PM PST by nopardons
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To: kiryandil

The VAT is terrible, institute tariffs on imported goods if the US government needs to raise money in a different and better way. The VAT is the key to socialism....


51 posted on 02/08/2016 7:29:39 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Leto

Laffer did NOT help Teddy with his tax plan.


52 posted on 02/08/2016 7:29:48 PM PST by nopardons
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To: kiryandil

This thread is delusional.

Cruz does not advocate a VAT in any way.


53 posted on 02/08/2016 7:30:31 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant (A slave is one who waits for someone to come and free him.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Trump's plan is much more business friendly.

Trump's tax plan is more in line with Bernie Sanders than it is with anything resembling Conservatism. Here is what he said back in August:

SEAN HANNITY: "Do you believe in supply-side economics inasmuch as you reduce taxes on everybody, including the wealthy, and that a rising tide lifts all boats?"

TRUMP: "I don't fully believe in it, but there is something to it. I don't fully, you know, I've studied it..."

HANNITY: "But you don't want a flat tax, you have said that."

TRUMP: "I don't like when everybody's paying the same."

54 posted on 02/08/2016 7:30:32 PM PST by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: bolobaby

Oh yeah...like Cruzers post every single anti-Trump article they can find, from Slate to Salon, to the HuffPo, and on to blogs NOBODY has EVER heard of, many times over, 24/7!


55 posted on 02/08/2016 7:32:18 PM PST by nopardons
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To: onona

Your photo doesn’t appear on my screen most likely due to my browser’s noscript/adblock settings or something.


56 posted on 02/08/2016 7:33:37 PM PST by Milhous (Donald Trump supporter.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
It will not lead to job creation.

Its a loser.

Trump's plan is much more business friendly.

Can you provide the details, reasoning, and logic behind those statements, or are they just statements?

57 posted on 02/08/2016 7:35:07 PM PST by Washi (All lives matter, or none do.)
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To: anymouse
I thought Cruz and the Taxed Enough Already party killed the VAT, and now he wants a new FAT tax? Why, this is outrageous! HUH? What? A FLAT tax? Oh ... Emily Litella photo: Emily Litella Emily_LItella.jpg
58 posted on 02/08/2016 7:35:17 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: anymouse
Ted Cruz's and Rand Paul's Strange Embrace of the VAT
National Review, November, 2015
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/426469/ted-cruz-rand-paul-vat

Apparently, National Review thinks it's a VAT. They had another article on the same thing a few days later.

59 posted on 02/08/2016 7:36:26 PM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: kiryandil

A proposal as comprehensive as what is being proposed will need to be examined so NO GROUP of Americans is harmed, and ALL GROUPS of Americans benefit. Simplifying the tax code, lowering the rates, and eliminating the payroll tax to restore incentive to work for the lower middle class are vital. But, fairness is important. I myself share this particular concern (I have some some other concerns as well). This particular concern can be addressed by an increase in the S.S. monthly payments so as to offset the VAT or sales tax-like aspect of the proposal. (This fix is really that simple!) Working people will get a huge increase in their take-home pay because of the elimination of payroll taxes. This will more than make-up for the VAT aspect of the proposal. But, those receiving S.S. benefits won’t have this off-set. Going through the proposal step by step in such manner might require an adjustment in the rates so as to not blow a hole in the deficit, but fairness has to be a very big priority has to be as high a priority as tax simplification, lowering the rates, restoring the incentive to work, balancing the budget and ensuring the solvency of S.S. and Medicare. We can and must do all these things without hurting any group of us.


60 posted on 02/08/2016 7:37:13 PM PST by Redmen4ever
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