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Posted on 02/07/2016 8:45:29 PM PST by SoConPubbie
Yesterday I told you how Ted Cruz talked about building a wall months before Donald Trump announced his 2016 presidential candidacy.
That post was misleading, and I deeply apologize.
Because Ted Cruz was actually talking about a wall years before Trump announced.
YEARS.
Here’s Ted Cruz, July 17, 2012, during his run for the Texas Senate, supporting building a wall:
MODERATOR: Mr. Cruz. You were asked during April’s Belo Debate if you support building a fence the length of the U.S./Mexico border and here’s what you said.
MODERATOR: He supports building a wall along the entire Texas/Mexico border. Is that something that you would support? Yes, no, why? We’ll start with you, Mr. Cruz.
CRUZ: Yes. We have an illegal immigration crisis and we need to do everything humanly possible to secure the border. That means fences, that means walls…
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MODERATOR: [unintelligible] wall, you said you’d support a wall —
CRUZ: I said yes to that.
MODERATOR: — even if it infringes on property rights of Texans along the way.
CRUZ: Property owners should be compensated for that [edit]
MODERATOR: Is that still your position tonight, to build a fence the length of the Texas/Mexico border?
CRUZ: I think we need to use every tool humanly possible.
MODERATOR: And that is one of them?
CRUZ: Yes.
MODERATOR: Yes? OK. Do you have any idea how much it would cost?
CRUZ: I don’t know the specific cost but I can guarantee you it is far less than the cost of illegal immigration.
The moderator goes on to berate Cruz for supporting this despite the cost. Cruz sticks to his guns. That was July 17, 2012, and the debate clip used in the second debate was from April 13, 2012. Donald Trump’s latest presidential run was announced in June 2015.
This means Ted Cruz supported a wall years before Trump announced his 2016 presidential bid.
And here is Cruz again, from July 30, 2011, supporting a wall as part of a comprehensive strategy to secure the border:
QUESTIONER: Do you favor a path to citizenship for illegal aliens already in the U.S., stricter border enforcement, and/or the building of a border wall or some other policy or combination of policies?
CRUZ: There were a lot of questions in that piece. Let me lay out my position on immigration, because I can state it simply and in one sentence. I am strongly opposed to illegal immigration. I am categorically opposed to amnesty. And I strongly support legal immigrants who follow the rules and come here seeking to work towards the American dream.
Now with respect to securing the borders, I approach this from the perspective of someone who’s spent much of his adult life in law enforcement. It makes utterly no sense that we don’t know who’s coming into this country. We don’t know the criminal backgrounds. Our borders are largely unsecured. And particularly in a post-9/11 world, that is lunacy. I support any and all possible efforts to secure the border. That includes fences, that includes walls, that includes technology, that includes helicopters, that includes drones, that includes manpower, that includes employment verification, that includes approaching it as a law enforcement priority. And right now, neither party is serious about doing that.
With respect to a path to citizenship or amnesty, I categorically oppose it. And the reason is, I’ve spent a lifetime working to defend the constitution and uphold the rule of law. It is fundamentally unfair and contrary to the rule of law to reward those who break the law. And you know, one of the people it’s most unfair to are those that are following the laws. There are immigrants who wait years and even decades to come here legally. And yet what amnesty programs say is that we’re going to take those that have chosen to break the law, and we’re going to reward them rather than insist that people follow the law. I don’t think that’s fair, I don’t think that’s right, and I don’t support it.
Thanks to @mbhouse on Twitter (here and here) for the pointers.
Cruz would very much like for you to believe that his amendment was a 'poison pill', but was it really?
I’m pointing out that he never talked about it. Never brought it up. Never tried to get it included in any bills, moron. He had four years to talk about this, moron. Where was he, moron? Do you have sh** for brains moron? That’s a rhetorical question.
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Exactly the same number as Trump, because its foolish.
(Yeah, Mexico will do that, Cause Trump promised.)
LOL
I find it laughable that those who scream the loudest against Trump, b/c he’s this that and the other thing, yet will willingly fall behind doing things the same old way over and over again. Trump cannot be trusted! - Oh, but trust another career politician to “fix” the problem. That to me is the disconnect so many here demonstrate. I’m done with career politicos - I hate their freaking guts, b/c every single one of them are LIARS first ... Oh, yes, some sugar coat their BS better than others, but, in the end, all the sugar in the world will not change the fact that a steaming pile of bloody hog turd is just that.
It’s proof your claims are false.
What is this ‘it’, you’re speaking of, jackass? You can’t even correctly identify what my claims are, and yet you have proof that they’re false? What proof do you have? Oh that’s right - ‘it’. You’re coming to this discussion unarmed.
Trump owns WHAT wall?
Ok, crap for brains, can you still say donnie talked about immigration before Cruz? That is the question and the lies you trumpanzees all talk about. It is just not true and I do not understand how you can say otherwise.
Now, when did donnie first talk about illegal immigration? Before or after 2011?
Have you also forgotten that Cruz fought the gang of 8 bill virtually by himself?
But I will just settle for you to tell me with proof when donnie first talked about illegal immigration.
My claims are not false if you can prove donnie talked illegal immigration on tape or in print before Cruz. Prove it or shut up.
The level of gullibility with Trump supporters is astounding! The only other matching trait is PMS levels of snarky.
Trying logic and truth is worthless, the pied piper calls....
Friend, if we were in a bar, I'd bust you right in the mouth for accusing me of that crime.
I honestly cannot believe that a fellow Freeper of your vintage would actually sit there and insult me like that - after I took the time to tell you how badly my business is being hurt by competitors who use illegal labor.
What exactly is your malfunction? Do you get off on slapping down a fellow Texan who's suffering real financial hardship, due to the influx of these invaders?
Get a grip. You have NO earthly idea how much pain my family has gone through because of this. My children have seen times that I never imagined they'd ever see, due to these soulless termites taking the food off our table.
Good lord, man. I'm so angry about this, I can hardly see straight.
Getting Mexico to pay for the wall only works in bizarro world which apparently we are now in!
I have absolutely no ‘problem” with sincere and HUMBLE practicing Christians ... I do however have a problem with those who wear it on their selves for public display, whilst they go about stoning those who are sinners. Or have you never read the parable of the Pharisee and the Publican?
This individual - a “Christian” - likes to remind the world about the sins of Donald Trump - whilst conveniently refusing to disclose his / her own indiscretions. I find that to be the pinnacle of hypocrisy. Or do you approve of this public shaming?
It’s not as though I am unawares or indifferent to Trumps moral failings. But if that is all we are going to judge our candidates on, then we might as well never hold another election until the Second Coming of Christ ... But I’d wager some of these “holier than thou” would attempt to crucify Him a second time.
If memory serves, the Fence Act of 2006. Duncan Hunter was involved.
And all the while Ted did not personally go out and build the wall, Donald Trump built the Democratic Party.
But you are Ok with that.
Insane.
Mexico will build the wall when hell freezes over, which is Trumps next campaign promise.
My bet is you will be out buying long johns the next day.
I’ve come to the conclusion that no honest person will vote for Trump. You know the old saying, birds of a feather flock together.
If I wanted advice from a retard, I would have pinged you ... However, I did not - so go burrow back into your sand pile.
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