Posted on 02/07/2016 11:09:36 AM PST by NRx
If one of my rounds “went astray†and killed an innocent person I’d be up on charges of manslaughter so fast it’d make my head spin. But then I’m just a citizen of Illinois with a CCL.
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And you aren’t sent out to resolve domestic disturbance calls where people may be armed and violent.
Why was this woman who had nothing to do with the incident standing next to a cop killer?
Rumor has it she was his aunt and that she was in the middle of things by choice.
Since “Quintonio” was a black guy, this cop may have been making a preemptive move with the lawsuit to prevent the usual “Ferguson/Baltimore effect” by the BLM bunch. Also, the lady who was hit by the same bullet should not have been lurking around a confrontational police situation.
That being said, police officers are trained to be aware of the background before they shoot. But in the heat of battle, “stuff happens”. I guess we’ll see how this plays out.
Like the child who killed his parents begs for mercy as an orphan? Without even any explaining to do?
Privilege abused becomes a liability sooner or later. It is an ironclad rule of this moral universe.
Sounds more like a way to raise further outrage. But again I’m just another peanut in the gallery.
What’s your point?
L
These rules are widely known. I grew up with them. Note #4
The Four Rules
1. All guns are always loaded. (Treat them so!)
2. Never point the gun at anything you are not willing to destroy.
3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on target (and you have made the decision to shoot).
4. Be sure of your target and what is beyond it.
You and Moon probably deserve each other.
Moon is on some philosophical jihad to avenge what he reports as a railroad job on some officer. Now he feels that reverse railroading is the only answer to the problem. The dickens with truth. Maybe your clash will eventually prove to both of you that truth, and not spin, still matters. And to allow that, the sloganeering has to be turned off.
Simply put the best defense is a good offense
“Cops are actually allowed extra- powerful loads, which undoubtedly contributed to the ability of the bullet to travel completely through one person and then kill someone else.”
Patently not true.
Oh do shut up.
L
That is certainly true in Chicago. The corruption in and of that city is breathtaking in its vastness.
I ride the train into the city every day for work, as my office is in the Loop. I go into work in the morning, and leave in the evening. I go straight from the train station to my office, and then reverse course without any deviation at the end of the day. I try not to spend so much as a dime in the city while I am there, or in Cook County, for that matter.
Hey everyone, check out the guy who doesn’t realize +p ammo isn’t LEO only.
All the Law Officer nomenclature does is signify a higher quality is used to ensure performance reliability.
+P is an old old issue. You may be shocked to know there’s also +p+ too.
“Google “+P law enforcement load†and you’ll understand where Talisker is coming from.”
Readily available to anyone. And I have never heard of a PD using anything but frangible bullets....for the very reason you posit. FMJ = verboten, because of the liability you swerve toward.
Didn’t the article say the bullet that killed the thug also killed the lady after passing through the crazy thug?
Can’t see where the police officer should be sued for accidentally killing the lady. Seems like the family of the lady should sue the crazy thugs family for the death caused by the crazy thugs behavior.
From reading the article would you have the police officer get his head bashed in instead of taking a reasonable defense of life shot? Would you let some guy bash your head in without defending yourself? I think not.
He hit the target, killed the crazy thug. It is not like he missed and killed the lady through recklessness. A one-in-a-million pass-through shot killing an innocent lady is not reckless or criminal or a violation of civil rights.
“Cops are actually allowed extra-powerful loads,”
Cite the law on that, please.
And what is an “extra-powerful” round?
What is an illegal “extra-powerful” round?
The article I read stated that two rounds were glancing shots. There you go.
The suit adds that the 'fourth round that Officer Rialmo fired passed through LeGrier and struck Bettie Jones, who unbeknownst to Officer Rialmo, was standing in the front doorway to the building … behind LeGrier and partially exposed to any gunfire that might pass through LeGrier.'
Seems to me Bettie Jones is partially at fault here, if this narrative is correct
The mentally ill guy is swinging a bat at him, officer starts to fire and she is just standing there...
I understand the time frame is tight, but once a guy starts swinging a bat around, I'd start moving away...
Yea, I reload and know a fair bit about self defense LA and the legalities of what is and isn’t legal.
The only real laws on bullets we have in America deal with importation. Bullet power isn’t really a factor. Otherwise a 115gr +p+ 9mm would be legal but a 44magnum ppssibly wouldn’t.
I can take H110 powder and load it into a 45 Long Colt with a 185gr FMJ to such a degree that the bullet screams out of a Ruger with enough power and anger to just about match a 223. Not a single cop would arrest me. Though they’d probably warn me I’m risking my safety if the pressure spikes too high. If I used it to defend myself. Wouldn’t go to jail for it.
“Some of these JHP rounds, such as the Ranger-T, are ‘LE only’ by manufacturer’s policy. I double-checked this with ace researcher Gary Slider at the blue-chip resource site handgunlaw.us, and neither he nor I know of anywhere outside San Francisco where it’s actually against the local law to use them.”
http://americanhandgunner.com/police-ammo-for-the-rest-of-us/
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