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Red State: Winners and Losers from Tonight's ABC Debate
Red State ^ | February 6, 2015 | Leon H. Wolf

Posted on 02/06/2016 10:46:36 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Here’s my take:

Winners:
Trump, Christie, Kasich, Bush.

Losers:
Rubio

Mixed night:
Cruz, Carson.

I think Cruz did well on many questions but the Carson/Iowa thing is going to haunt him. Carson came off really personable but he’s not presidential material.

The guys with exec experienced shinned tonight, and Rubio just BLEW IT.


41 posted on 02/06/2016 11:37:53 PM PST by SteveSCH
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To: Windflier

Go through Donald Trump’s immigration plan and show me where he’s going to deport 11 million illegals.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/immigration-reform

Now go read Ted Cruz’s immigration plan.

https://www.tedcruz.org/cruz-immigration-plan/


42 posted on 02/06/2016 11:37:58 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: SteveSCH

Just wanna add that I don’t think Bush or Kasich had GREAT nights, it’s just that Rubio had a poor one so this will help Trump/Christie/Kaisch/Bush in the polls.

Rubio really choked tonight, and the GOPe must be in a full out panic.


43 posted on 02/06/2016 11:39:09 PM PST by SteveSCH
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
BTW, Trump was booed - his antics flopped, his repertoire is stale.

Trump exposed debate crowd is hand picked by GOPe and donors. They were loathsome people who thought Jeb Bush was actually good on stage.

44 posted on 02/06/2016 11:39:41 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: publius911

I’ve already gone round with folks on this tonight.

A private company is a private company is a private company.

Private companies are using eminent domain. Courts are approving of their access on this. That is the reality of it.

If you want to take it up with the courts, be my guest.


45 posted on 02/06/2016 11:39:57 PM PST by DoughtyOne (the Free Republic Caucus: what FReepers are thinking, 100s or 1000s of them. It's up to you.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Who’s voting online in these polls? What party? What country? They’re worthless - except to try and sway public opinion.

Pretty much. Donald Trump has plenty of paid shills from India who keep attacking Trump's rivals on internet boards including Freerepublic, and who continue to vote countless times in these internet polls. They are utter garbage.

46 posted on 02/06/2016 11:40:50 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Thanks for your thoughts on them.

Evidently you think the public is idiotically going to these sites and lying. Can you provide a basis that explains why they would?

I understand certain types of polls where people flock to the site and load it, but what would the motive for this in this instance?

I can’t see one.


47 posted on 02/06/2016 11:42:17 PM PST by DoughtyOne (the Free Republic Caucus: what FReepers are thinking, 100s or 1000s of them. It's up to you.)
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To: SmokingJoe

SmokingJoe, please provide any proof you have that Trump hired people from India to game polls.


48 posted on 02/06/2016 11:43:02 PM PST by DoughtyOne (the Free Republic Caucus: what FReepers are thinking, 100s or 1000s of them. It's up to you.)
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To: SmokingJoe

I wouldn’t be surprised if you and a few other posters on here are on the Cruz payroll. With Cruz using psyops guys like Dan Gabriel to manipulate social media, it isn’t a stretch to imagine some FReepers joining in on the gravy train for Cruzie. Would explain their irrational and hateful behavior on the forum. Luckily, it has backfired, at least on FR. Trump dominates Freeper caucus, showing Cruzers are an ever shrinking minority.


49 posted on 02/06/2016 11:43:14 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Trump exposed debate crowd is hand picked by GOPe and donors. They were loathsome people who thought Jeb Bush was actually good on stage.

I guess Trump should have boycotted.

50 posted on 02/06/2016 11:46:13 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

It’s not its physical accessibility but what the pipeline delivers that benefits the general public...far more than a limousine parking lot for the general public of Atlantic City.


51 posted on 02/06/2016 11:46:56 PM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Ted was important in Iowa. And Texas.

The paucity of coverage is because his 15 minutes in second place are up.

He was important because the GOPe needed Teump to lose in Iowa. They are done using Ted now.

He will be joining dear Scotty in irrelevance very soon CW. Sorry.


52 posted on 02/06/2016 11:48:33 PM PST by datura (Proud Infidel)
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To: DoughtyOne

The evidence is that there are no controls.

“you think the public is idiotically going to sites”

More like tactically going to sites.

“Motives”

Pick an unelectable candidate to face the Democrat nominee.


53 posted on 02/06/2016 11:49:39 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’ve read both candidates’ plans.

Trump’s plan is clear that he intends to send the illegals back where they came from.

Ted’s plan says only that he’ll deport “criminal” illegals.

The omission is so glaring that David Muir was compelled to ask Ted to clarify it in his interview. Ted’s response was a typical lawyer’s dodge. He purposely didn’t answer the question.


54 posted on 02/06/2016 11:50:11 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Windflier
Trump's plan is clear that he intends to send the illegals back where they came from.

Cut and Paste that "clear" statement from Trump's site.

55 posted on 02/06/2016 11:51:29 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Honestly, your logic is just child-like.

Cruz says he won’t raise the issue of Bill’s nature in his run against Hillary.

So you think Hillary is more afraid to run against him than against Trump.

If that’s what you want to think, go ahead. I’m not buying it.

Trump will rip her to shreds. Ted will be a gentleman while she dissects him.


56 posted on 02/06/2016 11:52:41 PM PST by DoughtyOne (the Free Republic Caucus: what FReepers are thinking, 100s or 1000s of them. It's up to you.)
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To: SmokingJoe

Are you being sarcastic , or do you have some proof for such an inane statement ?


57 posted on 02/06/2016 11:54:06 PM PST by Neu Pragmatist (Trump is the only one who will secure our borders . Vote Trump)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Carson could not even find the stage in the beginning. The man is senile and/or burned out on self medication. Rubio is a wind up toy that has the same words coming out of him each time and the words are not always in a coherent order. Christi makes some pretty good arguments now and then. Bush had softball questions. Trump has just about run out of gas (a hot air balloon has only so much hot air. Kasich is still saying the same thing he has said in every debate. Cruz is the only candidate that is sane even though he is hammered every debate by the press that hates him. Cruz should get a medal of honor for standing in the line of fire time after time without faltering. The Carson attack on Cruz was unfounded and absolutely tells me what a piece of dog do-do he is.


58 posted on 02/06/2016 11:54:24 PM PST by Jukeman (God help us for we are deeper in trouble.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Cruz in his own words:
“So, in terms of a practical solution, I’ve laid out the most detailed plan for solving illegal immigration. It’s 11 pages, single-spaced, chapter and verse. It’s on our website, tedcruz.org.
In short, we are going to do, we are going to build a wall. We are going to triple the border patrol. We are going to increase — and actually, since Donald enjoyed that, I will simply say, I’ve got somebody in mind to build it.
We are going to increase four-fold, the fixed-wing and rotary-wing aircraft, so that you have technology monitoring an attempted incursion to direct the boots on the ground where they are occurring. We are going to put in place a strong e-verify system in the workplace, so you can’t get a job without proving you are here legally.
We will put in place a biometric exit-entry system on visas, because 40 percent of illegal immigration comes not over the border illegally, but people coming on visas and overstaying.
We will end sanctuary cities by cutting off taxpayer dollars to any jurisdiction that defies federal immigration law.
After audience applause Cruz added. And we will end welfare benefits for those here illegally.”


59 posted on 02/06/2016 11:57:26 PM PST by GregKremer (Vote Ted Cruz!)
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To: Jukeman

A Medal of Honor?

Cruz should get a Medal of Honor, for running in a political campaign?


60 posted on 02/07/2016 12:00:55 AM PST by RedHeeler
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