Carson dropout rumors dog Cruz in New Hampshire
Posted on 02/05/2016 11:14:07 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
Good points.
Well said. The word Libertarian has multiple meanings.
A Ron Paul Libertarian is different from a George Washington Libertarian.
Carson dropout rumors dog Cruz in New Hampshire
3 or 4 hours? LOL...
In 2016, the Iowa Democratic and Republican Party precinct caucuses took place on Monday, February 1 with one hour of voting beginning at 7:00pm.
You get that, right?
Have you driven in wintery Iowa?
3 hours = drive from home to caucus site + wait in line to get in + listen to boring speeches from supporters of various candidates + then record your vote + drive back home in the snow storm.
That is old news. But why is the media picking only on Ted Cruz? The media especially loves Marco.
That is true. They want a more agreeable fellow.
Take note of the date of the article, 2013.
http://www.cruz.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=105
The biggest change from his past is H1B visas. I think he learned his lesson on that front. He was for building “the wall” long before Trump. In 2012 Trump was bashing Romney for being “mean-spirited” for wanting to remove illegals. Even now Trump’s plan is a touch back process letting the “good ones” back.
Who do you believe will really actually do it?
President Obama is pushing a path to citizenship as a "poison pill" to prevent meaningful immigration reform, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) charged Monday. "The part that I"ve got deep concerns about is any path to citizenship for those who are here illegally," Cruz said during an interview with Sean Hannity. "I think that is profoundly unfair to the millions of legal immigrants who have followed the rules, who have waited in line.
"I think the reason that President Obama is insisting on a path to citizenship is that it is designed to be a poison pill to scuttle the whole bill, so he can have a political issue in 2014 and 2016. I think that’s really unfortunate," continued Cruz.
The Tea Party favorite said Congress could easily pass a comprehensive immigration reform deal if Democrats, and particularly Obama, stopped demanding the inclusion of a pathway to citizenship for immigrants living in the country illegally.
Cruz's comments came as a bipartisan group of senators indicate that it's nearly done crafting a broad immigration bill. The so-called "Gang of Eight" hopes to unveil the legislation in April, with Sen. Lindsey Graham on Sunday suggesting that the group could unveil legislation as early as next week...."
WASHINGTON - Among the 300 amendments to the Senate immigration bill is one that would take away one of its central purposes: giving a pathway to citizenship to the 11 million undocumented immigrants currently living in the United States.
Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), an almost certain "no" vote on the bill from the so-called gang of eight, filed an amendment on Tuesday to ban anyone who has been in the U.S. without status from becoming a citizen at any point.
The path to citizenship under the gang of eight bill is already a difficult one. It would take about 13 years and require immigrants to complete a number of requirements, such as learning English and paying hefty fines. Undocumented immigrants would first apply for provisional immigrant status, and most would be required stay in the U.S. for at least a decade before being eligible to apply for legal permanent residency. They could then eventually apply to be a U.S. citizen. But the government would have to meet certain border security benchmarks before any provisional immigrant could move into legal permanent resident status........
Ted Cruz Files Amendment To Deny Path To Citizenship As Senate Works On Bill
......"The amendments filed today to strengthen border security and reform our legal immigration system will not only bring meaningful, effective improvements to our immigration system, but also have a chance of becoming law," said Cruz in a statement. "America is a nation of immigrants, built by immigrants and we need to honor that heritage by fixing our broken immigration system, while upholding the rule of law and championing legal immigration."
His amendments are among more than 300 filed by the Tuesday evening deadline. Republicans wanting tighter enforcement provisions filed a majority of the amendments, with Sen. Chuck Grassley, a Republican from Iowa, leading the pack with 77 amendments.
Supporters of the bill, mainly of the part of it that would legalize millions of undocumented immigrants, kept a steady drumbeat in defense of the measure though emails, websites and social media.
In a press release, America's Voice, a leading national group that advocates for more lenient immigration laws, singled out Cruz's anti-citizenship amendment as particularly worrisome.
"This would not only destroy the path to citizenship in the Senate bill - the popular heart of an immigration reform solution - but also turn its back on 100 years of precedent in immigration policy," said the release..........
........Cruz says his amendment was a "poison pill" designed to doom the Gang of Eight reform package that Rubio co-authored.
So who's actually correct? There are two big points to unpack.
First is whether Cruz's amendment was indeed a "poison pill" meant to kill the immigration bill, which the Texas senator's campaign now contends. That is unequivocally true, so point goes to Cruz.
Second is whether Cruz's amendment signaled his true policy beliefs at the time. That's significantly murkier and ultimately, may never be knowable.
Let's start with the first point.
The bipartisan group of eight senators - including battle-tested veterans and relative newcomers like Rubio - painstakingly negotiated a delicate compromise in early 2013 that would overhaul every corner of the U.S. immigration system, including a 13-year pathway to citizenship for millions here illegally.
Fans and foes of the legislation, as well as observers at the time, knew the core bill couldn’t change too dramatically because that would upset that compromise, which not only had the backing of Democrats and Republicans in the Senate but also coalitions off the Hill, such as labor unions and the business lobby.
Cruz's amendment - which called for stripping out a pathway to citizenship, but keeping a path for legalization - would have done precisely that.
The night before each Senate Judiciary Committee markup, senior Gang of Eight aides would huddle to scour through each of the amendments that were teed up for the following day, determining which proposals would be palatable and which would be unacceptable. This strategy was meant to ensure the core elements of the Gang of Eight deal would stay intact (the four members of the Gang who sat on the Judiciary Committee would vote in a bloc, usually with the rest of the committee Democrats, to vote down potential deal-killers).
"This one was one that clearly we all had to oppose because it went to the core of the deal," recalled an aide to a Senate Democrat during the 2013 negotiations. "It could've unraveled the whole deal."
Sure, Cruz himself never called it a "poison pill" at the time. But no senator refers to his own proposal as a poison pill, even if it plainly is. The Gang of Eight never considered Cruz as "gettable," and it was well-known at the time that Cruz was never going to vote for the bill and was in fact, trying to kill it.
"Everyone was rolling their eyes and smirking when he said it would improve the bill," said the aide. "I don't think anybody took it seriously.".........
Jan 29, 2016 - FR THEAD: Megyn Kelly to Ted Cruz: "The record supports you."
"After the Fox News-Google debate Megyn Kelly interviewed Ted Cruz. [7:40 Video begins with a 1:00 clip of the earlier debate]
Kelly continued to pursue the "amnesty" angle that she'd begun during the debate [starting at 3:41] - about his history on illegals, immigration and amnesty, but concedes:
Kelly: "I look at your record, a lot, to see: Did Ted Cruz really want legalization, or didn't he?"
"I think the record supports you - that you did not want it; it does."
"It really was a poison pill amendment."
Then there is back and forth where Kelly states that Cruz had said that he wanted the Gang of Eight bill to pass.
Sen. Cruz corrects her and states that he wants immigration reform to pass -- but he never said he wanted the Gang of Eignt bill to pass. [He directs everyone to see the 11-page, very very detailed immigration plan on website (linked in comment below)].
Cruz explains tactics: "When debating Democrats [Schumer] you use the language of Democrats to show their hypocrisy."
"Schumer talked about 'coming out of the shadows' but it wasn't about that."
"Chuck Schumer said, 'If there is no citizenship, there is no reform and we'll kill the whole thing.'"
Their interview ended this way:
Megyn Kelly: "The record supports you." [Cruz: "Anyone here illegally is permanently ineligible for citizenship."]
"It was a poison pill."
"You do have a consistent record on that; I will give you that; we did look back on it."
I think about whether I need to buy another jar of Hellmann’s Real Mayonnaise next time I go to the store. :0)
Him and Debbie Whatsherschultz.
Cruz wants to win the presidency and just how many Libertarians have won the presidency? No, he’s no libertarian and that’s a good thing.
Ted Cruz is a common sense, principled conservative and different factions of the GOP base are beginning to “get it.”
he’s owned by Goldman Sachs
I have a home mortgage LOAN from Wells Fargo.
But I promise you, I’m paying them back and they DON’T own me...
“.....Trump defaulted on his loan and control of the airline went back to the banks led by Citibank. Unlike most other airlines that failed during this time period, the Shuttle was still a valuable asset given its business-oriented customer base and access to slot-controlled airports in New York and Washington.
Citibank put the airline up for sale, and after some lengthy negotiations with Northwest and American, settled on a deal with USAir Group. The company would take 40% ownership of the airline for 10 years, while managing the airline’s operations under the USAir Shuttle brand. The same deal gave USAir the option of buying the entire operation outright after five years, which they did in 1997. In April 1992 the Trump Shuttle was no more.”.......
http://www.nycaviation.com/2015/07/one-time-donald-trump-owned-airline/#.VrXdqinWqyh
...”If you look at his financial disclosure, he owes at least $480 million right now, and it could be billions,” Cruz said on “Fox News Sunday.”
The Texas senator also said it was hypocritical for Trump to attack him due to his failure to disclose two bank loans during his 2012 run for Senate.
“He knows this loan story is complete nonsense,” Cruz said. “It’s also the height of chutzpah for someone who owes hundreds of millions of dollars, if not billions of dollars, to attack Heidi and me because we put our life savings into running for Senate.”
“And by the way, with loans, when Heidi and I take loans, we pay them back,” he added. “Donald has declared bankruptcy four times. So for him to sit there owing hundreds of millions or billions or who knows and to criticize Heidi and me for putting our entire net worth into the campaign is astonishing.”
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/267652-cruz-trump-owes-billions-in-loans
(1) He’s right that Cruz is not a libertarian. My economic beliefs are more or less midway between Cruz and Paul, and in several areas I preferred Rand Paul to Cruz. I would have supported Paul more strongly if I agreed with him on more non-economic issues and perhaps if he didn’t have a nutty father who clearly inspired some of his beliefs (not saying Rand is nutty, just that my worry with him is that he might hide it better than his dad does).
(2) The claim that Cruz is “owned by Goldman Sachs” is silly. I have looked and not found evidence in his voting record of favoritism toward Wall Street or the big banks, but I have found a great deal of evidence that Cruz opposes “too big to fail” and other forms of crony capitalism.
It’s okay to say that more than one candidate is acceptable. We don’t have to decide that Trump is terrible and probably has bad breath to match his bad hair, or that Cruz is a secret member of the Illuminati who shops at K-Mart, just because we support the other one.
“Surprisingly, the elder Paul seemed more attracted to the views of Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, ...”
Then Ron Paul is no libertarian. Statism is statism. And the statism is strong in Mr Bernie.
I hope we’re not arguing that Cruz is a libertarian.
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