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Learning about hunting and the morality of meat
Seattle Times ^ | February 3, 2016 | Addie Broyles

Posted on 02/04/2016 6:23:42 PM PST by SJackson

Addie Broyles wanted to kill a deer -- not for sport, but so she could have a direct hand in the harvesting of meat that she would eat.

AUSTIN, Texas -- A few weeks ago, I went to Castroville, Texas, to try to close the loop.

To skip the euphemisms, I wanted to kill a deer -- not for sport, but so I could have a direct hand in the harvesting of meat that I would eat.

After many years of increasing curiosity about hunting, I'd sweet-talked my way into a trip with Marvin Bendele, the director of Foodways Texas, and Jess Pryles, the meat maven behind her eponymous website and a fall event called the Carnivore's Ball.

Even though I grew up in a rural area surrounded by hunting culture, I'd never shot a gun. My parents were peace-loving hippies who, after my dad was drafted and spent four years in the Air Force, chose to spend most of their outdoor time camping and canoeing.

Living in Texas for a decade, I've had plenty of chances to think about why I've been stuck on the outskirts of hunting culture. My family members own guns but not the land on which to hunt. We eat meat but have spent our professional lives working to earn money to buy it instead of spending that time acquiring it by our own means.

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To: Bob; SJackson
Either your dad was drafted OR he enlisted in the Air Force -- pick one.

I'm not sure you have it quite right here. He might have received his draft notice (="been drafted") and decided to tough it out (which would have been for only two years); or then elected to enlist in the Air Force instead, which would then have been for two years longer, but with much less likely direct exposure to combat, and perhaps an opportunity to learn a trade useful after discharge.

If so, SJackson's statement would be correct. In either cases, his/her father would have served with honor, not as a draft dodger, as one might infer from your reply.

Draft dodgers went to Canada, or stretched out their time in a college or grad school someplace. Like Bill Clinton.

I spent six years in the Army National Guard as a citizen soldier in the in-between years after Korea but before Vietnam, always taking the chance of being summarily called in as a unit directly into combat should the need arise; but with an Honorable Discharge Certificate at the end.

That also was a proof against being drafted, if you enlisted in the Army or Air National Guard for a certain commitment, rather than taking the chance of "winning" in the draft lottery.

Your draft classification went from 1-A to 4-A by this step. For me, that was 60 years ago.

21 posted on 02/04/2016 7:22:59 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Bob

I did 20 months in 1969-70.


22 posted on 02/04/2016 7:28:17 PM PST by umgud
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To: Elderberry

I remember the bee quarantines a few years back.


23 posted on 02/04/2016 7:28:29 PM PST by sockmonkey (Donald Trump will ban auto-correct with an Executive Order. Go Trump!)
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To: Unrepentant VN Vet

I spent nine years in the Navy to avoid getting drafted for two. :=)


24 posted on 02/04/2016 7:28:31 PM PST by Bob (No, being a US Senator and the Secretary of State are not accomplishments; they're jobs.)
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To: Bob

Either your dad was drafted OR he enlisted in the Air Force — pick one. If he had been drafted, he would have spent two years in either the Army or possibly the Marine Corps.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I enlisted in the A.F. in July 1963 and served with draftees in the A.F.

When recruiting goals were not met, various branches received draftees.


25 posted on 02/04/2016 7:35:39 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Bill and Hillary Clinton are the penicillin-resistant syphilis of our political system.)
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To: truth_seeker

Eat what you kill. It’s not legal to sell it in Texas. You harvest it, it’s yours.

That said, combine venison and feral hog with the right spices - heaven. CWD is a concern in some parts.


26 posted on 02/04/2016 7:38:53 PM PST by LoneStar42 (Turn right.)
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To: Bob
My draft number was 2.

Then they stopped the draft before my number was called. Imagine that!

Well I went in anyway and served 4.

27 posted on 02/04/2016 7:43:58 PM PST by Elderberry
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To: SJackson

Hunting FReepers, I am a city girl who loves to eat yummy wild animals (ok, just the kosher ones). Last night I was sitting in an emergency dentist’s office in pain, watching one of those cooking shows on the tv in front of my chair. The contestants came in and were told to dress in duck hunting clothes provided for them. Then they were brought by bus to a lake with ducks. I got so excited. I thought mainstream tv was doing something so bold, so cool. Bring down your own duck and then cook it deliciously. I was so exited though my Fog of Pain.

But no, they were only supposed to net some rubber ducks with ingredients written on them on that lake. SO DISAPPOINTING. I would have watched that show every season if it went that cool.

Because every animal those cooks sauté or grill was killed by someone. It would have been so cool.


28 posted on 02/04/2016 7:50:14 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Bob

Counting Reserves, my ratio was 11 to 2. (Forget how to do a smiley sticking his tongue out...)

But back on topic, I must be just another redneck omnivore because I really can’t decide if I like venison more than elk more than speedgoat more than....hmmmmmm.

All this has done besides getting to tell Sea Stories again is remind me to check the freezer.

I do believe the grandkids went outta here the other day with an awful lot of grocery sacks and I suppose Grandma’s been restocking them again with the stuff I just laid by this fall. Damn.


29 posted on 02/04/2016 8:02:08 PM PST by Unrepentant VN Vet (God gives us rights; Governments take them away....if we let them.)
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To: SJackson

well we hunt for pelts and to control varmints on farms...and we use dogs ...and as always you some are going to call me a creep and a mass murder....and a animal abuser twice over because I am sure some of you think i abuse the dog to get it to abuse the wild game....by the way we use mountain curs and blackmouth curs some of the first AMERICAN hunting dogs breeds...I am very proud of this and the dogs we run....ya we run them we actually let them go...and we really have no control of them and sometimes they trespass...tried to teach one to read but heck I can hardly read


30 posted on 02/04/2016 9:52:03 PM PST by curdogmen
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To: SJackson

“Because you can’t grill it, until you kill it.”


31 posted on 02/04/2016 9:54:54 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: backwoods-engineer

Oddly enough hunters are the deer’s best friend. The Texas Game and Wildlife Commission do great work. They analyze each area of the State to determine how many deer that area can sustain dependent on yearly food supply. They then issue enough deer tags to kill a certain number of deer. Thus they keep the deer at the optimal population level each year.

Hats off to the Texas Game and Wildlife Commission. They do a great job and we hunters are their friend.


32 posted on 02/04/2016 10:07:36 PM PST by cpdiii (DECKHAND, ROUGHNECK, GEOLOGIST, PILOT, PHARMACIST, LIBERTARIAN The Constitution is worth dying for.)
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To: Bob
Either your dad was drafted OR he enlisted in the Air Force -- pick one. If he had been drafted, he would have spent two years in either the Army or possibly the Marine Corps.

Always exceptions to the rule.

My buddy was drafted during the last lottery of the Viet Nam era.

He tried to enlist in the USAF and USN but couldn't pass the physicals because of a birth defect that left him knock-kneed and pigeon toed (kinda-sorta "ran" the 100 yard "dash" in 18 seconds as a personal best) - the Army welcomed him with open arms.

His father went to his Congress Critter and he was finally allowed to enlist in the USAF instead of reporting to the Army. He ended up spending 20 honorable years.

At any rate, he was actually drafted but ended up in the AF.

33 posted on 02/05/2016 4:46:13 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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