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Is The Fed "Seriously Considering" Negative Interest Rates?
Zerohedge ^ | February 4, 2016 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 02/04/2016 9:57:02 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian

The Fed may "seriously consider" negative rates after moving rates back to zero, reintroducing forward guidance and making "stronger pleas" to Congress for fiscal policy action as there are complications for money markets, according to BofAML strategist Mark Cabana.

This would not be a total surprise as Mises Institute's Joseph Salerno warns recent Fed commentary suggests they want to test-drive negative interest rates...

In 2016, the Fed's annual stress test on banks will include a scenario in which the interest rate on the three-month U.S. Treasury bill becomes negative in the second quarter of 2016 and then declines to -0.5%, remaining at that level until the first quarter of 2019. According to the Fed, "The severely adverse scenario is characterized by a severe global recession, accompanied by a period of heightened corporate financial stress and negative yields for short-term U.S. Treasury securities." In other words, including this scenario in its stress test is not supposed to signal that the Fed is contemplating adopting a deliberate policy of negative interest rates. It is simply testing the resilience of big banks in the face of a severe recession that precipitates a "flight to safety" which spontaneously drives rates on short-term Treasury securities into negative territory. Or so they would have us believe.

Recent remarks by those associated with the Fed, however, seem to suggest otherwise. For example, former Fed official Roberto Perli, now a partner at Cornerstone Macro LLC, commented "It doesn’t signal anything" about future monetary policy, but then added, it is "another sign that the Fed would not be entirely adverse" to reducing its target rate below zero if economic conditions should warrant.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: economy; fed; interest
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Agree. Total disaster. ZIRP has already punished savers with effectively earning nothing for their money. Now they want to start confiscating money from anyone with a savings account? That would start an avalanche of withdrawals to the 1st Bank of Sealy.


21 posted on 02/04/2016 10:31:56 AM PST by Flick Lives (One should not attend even the end of the world without a good breakfast. -- Heinlein)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Their remaining options are limited and not very good. They include: default, (hyper)inflation, devaluation of the currency, or crushing tax increases.


or kaput, like the USSR.........................


22 posted on 02/04/2016 10:32:50 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
Yes, Japan went NIRP and they just had to cancel a bond sale because no enough people wanted to buy bonds that had a negative yield. Go figure.

What? You mean no one wanted the liability of a bond on top of which you pay the bond issuer for the "privilege" of the bond liability? *Sheesh*

23 posted on 02/04/2016 10:34:56 AM PST by Flick Lives (One should not attend even the end of the world without a good breakfast. -- Heinlein)
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To: sparklite2

“Or sharply curtailing government.”

When the government is the one making the decision, that’s never an option.


24 posted on 02/04/2016 10:43:45 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Former Proud Canadian

We are already in a zero-rate environment. When you adjust for taxes and a couple of percent inflation, any “safe” instrument you can buy yields a negative return. This would just make it “official.” And, it would more than likely only apply to deposit/demand accounts.

I agree that a negative real rate (after inflation and taxes) robs savers, but we have it already.


25 posted on 02/04/2016 10:48:27 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: sparklite2

I`d drive me to use Mason Jars and midnight holes in the back yard. P!ss on the banks.


26 posted on 02/04/2016 11:12:11 AM PST by nomad
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Ask yourself the simple question “what Fed policy would be best for Democrats?” That is what they’ll do.


27 posted on 02/04/2016 11:25:43 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: dp0622

The result being people pull their money out in cash and keep it at home in the mattress or do what the government wants, spend it.

I can see as posted here in order for negative rates to work they have to ban or curtail the use of cash. This will take some time and will result in a return to barter services for services. These Ivy League “educated” fools have done more damage to the world in the last 35 yrs. than all the deadly diseases combined!


28 posted on 02/04/2016 11:31:42 AM PST by sarge83
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Nothing big will happen until Obama is out of office. He has so many minions in the federal bureaucracy they will wreak havoc if a republican wins.


29 posted on 02/04/2016 11:42:56 AM PST by Organic Panic
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To: sparklite2
Sharply curtailing government?

We have Brazil and Venezuela as examples. If those countries go through their current financial reset without revolutions I will be surprised.

Next up are Japan and China.

Popular uprisings, aka revolution, tend to curtail government.

30 posted on 02/04/2016 12:58:07 PM PST by Former Proud Canadian
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To: nomad

Currency with a depreciation and expiration date. Change out the issued script on a regular basis, such as was done to counter black market accumulation of currency post WWII until after 1973 Vietnam, known as the ‘military payment certificate’ (MPC). The changeover date was random and not announced, so anyone outside the system was left holding worthless paper.


31 posted on 02/04/2016 4:11:05 PM PST by Ozark Tom
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To: Former Proud Canadian

If you did “buy” a negative rate bond isn’t this like uh, confiscation?


32 posted on 02/04/2016 6:06:17 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

You can likely count on it by the end of the year.


33 posted on 02/04/2016 6:22:09 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Flick Lives

New currency will be issued with expiration dates, the old currency banned, and there will be nowhere to hide other than real assets.


34 posted on 02/04/2016 6:23:41 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OMorgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: Sequoyah101
Not unless you are coerced to buy the bond. If you buy it voluntarily, you are voluntarily giving up some nominal amount of the currency the bond is issued in.

This is what makes Japan so interesting. They have reached the point where the only buyer for their bonds is the Bank of Japan. The market has determined that it would rather just hold on to the local currency at zero interest.

However, the Japanese government has to sell bonds to finance its deficit and to repay the bonds that are maturing. Raising rates to attract wealth is not possible. Kyle Bass says that at a rate of 2% the entire revenue of the Japanese government would go to interest payments on their debt. That is how dire the situation is.

Their only options are various forms of financial magic. All of them involve wealth confiscation by other means. So, they are one step away.

35 posted on 02/05/2016 4:29:19 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian
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To: Ozark Tom

Ok, then gold, silver, platinum, palladium, copper... the list goes on.


36 posted on 02/05/2016 9:24:26 AM PST by nomad
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To: Former Proud Canadian
Is The Fed "Seriously Considering" Negative Interest Rates?

Add that to paying people not to commit crimes.

We live in the United States of Calligula.

37 posted on 02/05/2016 9:26:01 AM PST by DungeonMaster (the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.)
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