Posted on 02/03/2016 11:23:25 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
But you said after your last attempt at cogency, that you were going to bed. It’s fun to live in your brain rent free!
That appears to be the direction he’s going.
I also said your conversation was not worth waiting up for. Other people are quite interesting in their comments on topic. By the way, do you ever talk to people without attaching an insult?
I would like to phase out all welfare too. For instance, why is it mandated that all workers take drug tests, but not welfare people?
I find hunger a great motivator.
“ethanol is destructive to engines, especially small ones”
Spot On! I’ve had to resort to buying outrageously expensive clear unleaded fuel for my generator and other gasoline-powered tools. Ethanol is a poor motor fuel. While it has a decent octane number, it’s heat content per unit volume is a lot lower than gasoline.
I am glad of it too.
Donald Trump did. Sure spent a lot of time there.
hot d*mn!
said a guy at the back of the fr thread.
:-)
I love that!
: )
bttt!
I was just thinking a while ago that corn does not grow from sunlight and water alone. There have to be some kind of add-ins to maintain the useful life of a field.
This ethanol, RFS and ‘blend wall’ thing? My experience with ethanol tells me as a consumer and responsible for the maintenance of all the various engines in my household - I DO NOT WANT IT - ever. I’ve spoke a number of times about the reasons why here.
However, I believe that development and usage mandates from a politically driven government is what keeps ethanol as a viable grower product - a subsidy that shouldn’t be in my opinion. The RFS? I think the government should stay the hell out of private affairs. It doesn’t own all the oil in the world, nor does it own the sun, the wind or all the corn. It exists to feed itself and its own continuance.
Frankly, I don’t understand the point of removing the ‘blend wall’ as being an automatic jumpstart to ethanol sales. I guess the ethanol plant builder where Ted got most of his information from likes it for some reason.
True, it would ‘allow’ auto builders to offer cars optimized for higher ethanol content; it would all the ethanol plant builder to build more plants, too. My point is why would the consumer jump on this bandwagon?
From my experience, ethanol destroys O2 sensors (especially wide band sensors), destroys gaskets and seals, some tubings. As an alcohol, it attracts moisture that can corrode internal workings and a hose of other problems. For what purpose? So much demonstrably cheaper gas price? I don’t think so. Oil production controls that.
IF what he says, doing away with RFS does what they think, then okay. It’s their nickel. I just don’t want to be mandated in any manner I have to have a car that will run on it and I WANT to be able to buy gas that has NO ethanol in it. If you can do this without RFS and blend wall, then let the market decide.
I am just hesitant at this point to believe you can have your cake and eat it too. Somewhere, somehow, somebody has figured out how to make a buck on it and is doing their best to get the government to help them do it.
I bought a bottle of something called Starbrite - Startron enzyme fuel treatment on the advice of my neighbor - a professional mechanic. He said it gets rid of the ethanol problems - I just started using it - so who knows?
This was absolutely brilliant, counter-intuitive strategy on Cruz’ part. This is a guy who does his homework! This is a guy who will take a risk to stand up for his principles instead of taking the cowardly way out and instead of following the establishment playbook. And not just religious principles, but true small-government, free-market principles in the great Milton Friedman tradition, the kind that we haven’t had a candidate campaign on since Reagan. Ted Cruz is the presidential candidate conservatives have been dreaming about for decades.
“Somewhere, somehow, somebody has figured out how to make a buck on it and is doing their best to get the government to help them do it.”
That is what Cruz is saying he will do - let them make a buck on it (or not) - but keep the government out of it. Keeping the government out of it could be difficult. Some of the EPA rules, parts of obamacare, etc. were put in by Executive Order - and can be removed by executive order which Cruz has promised to do. Some of this though is law, and will need to be run through Congress to remove.
I believe that as it stands now the ethanol subsidies are already set to expire in five years. And Cruz says he’ll stick with that (allowing the farmers time to adjust). Of course with a different President they could be extended.
He was joking, CW, parodying the typical Cruz-bashing we’ve been seeing. Very funny!
I know - now.
: )
We connected on my “oops.”
Thanks.
I’m fine with all that. But I still am highly suspicious of why the person who gets his living from building ethanol plants - where Ted learned most about RFS, blend wall, etc. thinks this will increase ethanol market share.
I simply do not believe that removing restrictions will force the public to ‘demand’ more ethanol as a must-have. There has to be some kind of catch with it.
Even despite its destructive characteristics, you can’t overcome the basic facdt that ethanol contains 2/3 of the energy that gas has.
“Other cheaper sources” are used today to restore the alcohol byproduct to full value feed for livestock.
I have a 1998 GMC, 300,000 miles used ethanol for the last 180,000 miles. Replaced fuel injectors at 200,000 miles.
1988 Fiero 60,000+ miles. ethanol
Ethanol will stand on it's own.
” bought a bottle of something called Starbrite - Startron enzyme fuel treatment on the advice of my neighbor - a professional mechanic. He said it gets rid of the ethanol problems - I just started using it - so who knows?”
There are a couple of problems with Ethanol as a fuel. First of all, since it’s hygroscopic (has ans afinity for moisture), it agrivates the problem with condensation in your fuel tank. That’s not normally a problem so long as you run the vehicle all the time and consume the water/alcohol mix as you drive. Secondly, alcohols are corrosive. That’s why older vehicles that were not originally built to accept alcohol, suffer fuel system failures. In larger percentages, aluminum parts are damaged by it. Alcohols are also bad for rubber parts, so newer stuff uses silicone elastomers. Even using fuel stabilizers have limited value with fuels containing alcohol. I use VP 92 octane clear unleaded in my generator and a similar product that contains the proper amount of oil for my two-cycle stuff. My chain saw can sit for six months with the stuff and start with one or two pulls. Before the switch, I would have to put in a new spark plug to get it to run.
You can extract up to 36% of the BTUs of ethanol, because you can run much higher compression and spark advance without even the smell of pre-ignition.
Gasoline ignition produces an explosion.
Ethanol ignition starts a flame front that burns more slowly through the power stroke, similar to diesel.
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