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Australia Should Buy F-22s, Not F-35s, Says Retired RAAF Wing Commander
GIZMODO Australia ^ | 02/02/2016 | CAMPBELL SIMPSON

Posted on 02/03/2016 1:49:03 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki

A submission to a Senate inquiry into the feasibility of Government’s planned purchase of at least 72 F-35 Lightning II fighter jets says that the multirole planes will be instantly outmatched in air superiority by the airborne wings of competing countries in the region like China and Indonesia, and will fare even worse against future threats. It suggests — hypothetically — that Australia instead push for the F-22 Raptor, a jet that the United States has never sold to even its closest military allies.

In the submission to the Senate Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade’s Joint Strike Fighter inquiry, Royal Australian Air Force Wing Commander Chris Mills AM, MSc, BSc (Retd) says that lessons from history and statistical modelling suggest that the F-35 is a poor choice for the future of warfare in the region, which centres around air superiority versus countries like Indonesia and China.

A simulation showing six F-35s versus six Sukhoi SU-35S, Indonesia’s intended future air superiority fighter choice for its air force, suggests that 2.36 Joint Strike Fighters would be lost for every SU-35S downed. The simulation was run on H3MilSim software developed by Mills’ RepSim, a company he and a colleague set up after retiring from the RAAF.

A simulation of the aerially superior F-22 Raptor, though, results in an almost precisely opposite outcome — with 2.14 Sukhoi jets destroyed per F-22 loss. While the F-35 is a newer jet, it is a multirole fighter capable of ground attack and reconnaissance, while the F-22 has the sole role of air superiority and supremacy in enemy airspace.

With future fifth-generation aircraft like the Sukhoi PAK FA / T-50, China’s own Chengdu J-20 and Shenyang J-31 on the horizon from Australia’s regional competitors, Mills suggests that production of the F-22 be restarted and the fighter itself exported for Australia’s use in local air superiority roles. Production of the F-22 by Lockheed Martin, its partners and the USAF was discontinued in 2011, but Mills says the tooling to produce several hundred new jets still exists and could be put to work on the very same production line as creates the Joint Strike Fighter in Dallas, Texas.

This is a thought exercise, obviously — the United States has never sold the F-22A to any other country on Earth, and the export itself is currently banned on national security grounds. But the shortcomings of the F-35 — without any next-generation “beyond visual range” over-the-horizon air-to-air missiles like the Meteor BVRAAM planned for Australia, although that missile is being developed for F-35 compatibility by the UK RAF and Ministry of Defence — are made clear by Mills’ submission.

Another submission from retired Wing Commander Anthony Wilkinson says that in its capacity as a multirole aircraft, the F-35’s bomb load is too small and its range is too short to be effective in the South Asia region. Other submissions, like that from Jai Galliott, suggest the Air Force and government should look into drones and pilotless versions of the F-35, which are not currently planned for development. [Australian Senate]


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; australia; f22; f35; raaf

1 posted on 02/03/2016 1:49:04 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Concur.. F-22 is a far superior aircraft.


2 posted on 02/03/2016 2:08:49 AM PST by maddog55 (America Rising a new Civil War needs to happen.)
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To: maddog55

that’s ok. Whats a trillion dollars here and there. Didn’t anybody know this at the beginning.


3 posted on 02/03/2016 2:13:05 AM PST by dp0622 (I)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Throw some AIM 120’s on a Cessna 180 and call it a day...... yes vote of F22’s.


4 posted on 02/03/2016 2:27:19 AM PST by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

What part of no longer being built and prohibited for export escapes the good Wing Commander? The USAF can’t get more built so getting the production line restarted just for the RAAF isn’t happening.


5 posted on 02/03/2016 2:49:47 AM PST by Dundee (They gave up all their tomorrows for our today's.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

It would have been a good idea.

I suppose the production line no longer exists however, and much of the talent at Lockheed in Georgia has likely moved on.

But the F-22 should have been offered to Australia, and Japan, and Poland.


6 posted on 02/03/2016 3:20:15 AM PST by The Free Engineer (.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
You think the F-35 is expensive, wait until you see the price tag to reconstitute the F-22 line for a run of 48 aircraft.

Australia erred tremendously when they purchased F/A-18F and EA-18G Hornets to replace their F-111Cs and Gs.

The correct replacement for the F-111's maritime patrol and interdiction role was the F-15E.

The Super Hornets are a good replacement for their aging F/A-18As and Bs.

7 posted on 02/03/2016 3:24:18 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

“... the export itself is currently banned on national security grounds ...”

The Obey Amendment stopped the export. Obey was an extreme partisan Democrat whose motive was: if it hurts the US then its a good thing. National security was a distant secondary concern.

This amendment could be overridden at any time should the Congress so choose.


8 posted on 02/03/2016 4:29:08 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Pretty sure if the assembly line restarted on the F-22, the plane would never be exported.


9 posted on 02/03/2016 5:32:01 AM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: hattend

I’m also pretty sure that Australia lobbied very hard to get some F-22s when the line was open, and were flatly rebuffed.


10 posted on 02/03/2016 5:50:29 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
That maybe true, but the F-22 production line is closed and the tooling broken up and junked. It would be cost prohibitive to reopen it. Ergo, Oz is stuck with the F-35, if it can afford them.
11 posted on 02/03/2016 6:46:20 AM PST by MasterGunner01 ( Barbara Da)
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