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Cruz Credits Attack on Trump’s ‘NY Values’ in Iowa Win
ABC NEWS ^ | February 2, 2016 | ARLETTE SAENZ

Posted on 02/02/2016 6:58:20 PM PST by GodGunsGuts

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To: mrsmith

NYers who live in Florida vote in the Democratic primary, not the Republican one. ;)


41 posted on 02/02/2016 8:02:49 PM PST by Clemenza (Lurking)
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To: JoSixChip
BTTT
42 posted on 02/02/2016 8:02:59 PM PST by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: Chgogal

http://gfycat.com/CornyDesertedAmmonite

Here’s a little video about how Cruz’s family values HIM...
It wouldn’t be so bad were it not for the fact that he forces himself onto the kid, anyway!

He doesn’t respect her ‘no’.

Here are HIS family values.


43 posted on 02/02/2016 8:19:36 PM PST by PrairieLady2
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To: miss marmelstein

Apparently, Houston has the sixth largest gay population in the country. Makes sense that Cruz would do well there given his NY gay activist donor connections.

http://www.futurescopes.com/gay-dating/2983/10-cities-large-population-gays


44 posted on 02/02/2016 8:21:12 PM PST by lodi90 (TRUMP Force 1 lifting off)
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To: Jim Noble

Jesus said there would be people who talk about His followers the way you do.


45 posted on 02/02/2016 8:38:23 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Undecided 2012

So you’re the dingy ‘undecided’ voter they lust after?

Enjoy your gloating while it lasts, Cruz is in for a rough ride when the GOPe sends it’s dogs from the media after him, they are in for Rubio so don’t be too sore when Cruz gets ‘the treatment’.


46 posted on 02/02/2016 10:30:10 PM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: JoSixChip

“...For example, one guy stopped and helped Trump change a tire, so Trump anonymously paid off the guy’s mortgage.”

Ummm.....so you’re saying Trump ***anonymously***paid off some guy’s mortgage? Then how, pray tell, would you ( or ‘”the guy” ) know who did it, if indeed the deed were done?
More to the point, what’s “the guy’s” name? Where is he? ( Oh, right. “The guy” is anonymous too, because Trump swore him to secrecy. Because Trump is a modest, humble fellow, who doesn’t want any public praise for his generosity!) But surely there’s other proof? Where’s the video? Where’s the copy of the cancelled check with ‘Anonymous’ signed on the signature line? Or was it paid in cash by a mysterious stranger in sunglasses who works for Trump and is sworn to secrecy?
Do you even hear yourself?

This long-discredited urban legend, starring differing benevolent billionaires including Rockefeller and Howard Hughes and featuring slight variations in the story, has resurfaced recently in several versions involving Trump.
Trump may have floated the story himself.
One version was flat tire, another was mechanical difficulty, some versions feature Trump’s chauffeur, others vaguely imply it was Trump’s driver’s night off, so Trump was alone, in the middle of nowhere—but apparently he had no On-Star, no AAA, no car phone, nothing. In still another version, it was a widow facing foreclosure instead of “some guy.”

People who float these stories, or believe them, are putting their stock in magical thinking. Maybe one day they’ll have a chance meetup with their idol, (and it’s really the money, not the man, that is the object of their idolatry) and they’re hoping perhaps they, too, can change his tire, or shine his shoes, and he’ll be sooooo grateful for this rare, refreshing encounter with the hoi polloi, that he’ll hand over ridiculous amounts of cash to them, too, just like they heard he did for “some guy.”


47 posted on 02/02/2016 11:20:25 PM PST by mumblypeg (Reality is way more complicated than the internet. That's why I'm here.)
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To: mumblypeg
Then how, pray tell, would you ( or '"the guy" ) know who did it, if indeed the deed were done?

Actually it was reported by a veteran on stage during the Veterans fund raiser Trump did during the last RNC debate. But I'm sure your urban legend explanation is more credible then the first hand account from an Afghanistan war veteran who lost is leg fighting for people like you who have never done anything bit bitch about people that have through her keyboard.
48 posted on 02/02/2016 11:34:15 PM PST by JoSixChip (Ted Cruz (R-Goldman Sachs) - losers are not winners)
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To: JoSixChip

You’re so gullible...


49 posted on 02/03/2016 1:14:36 AM PST by DB
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To: lodi90

So your plan is to convince people Texas isn’t a conservative state? Keep reaching.


50 posted on 02/03/2016 1:17:01 AM PST by JediJones ("How stupid are the people of Iowa?" -Donald Trump, November 12, 2015)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Cruz values are lie lie lie and if that does not work flip flop.

I have never seen a dirtier politician.

51 posted on 02/03/2016 1:20:27 AM PST by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: Vision Thing

The nation is divided. Pretending that we can “bring people together” is a big joke. The only way forward is to defeat leftists and send them into retreat, not to unite or work with them on anything.


52 posted on 02/03/2016 1:21:24 AM PST by JediJones ("How stupid are the people of Iowa?" -Donald Trump, November 12, 2015)
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To: JoSixChip

Are you now saying the Afghanistan veteran is “the guy” who changed Trump’s tire and got his mortgage paid off? That’s the only way it could be a “first hand story.” Did the Veteran positively identify himself as the beneficiary of this famous “anonymous” largesse? Did he change the tire before or after he lost his leg? When did Trump admit to being the donor, and why now, if he “doesn’t even take credit” for his generosity?
You’re changing YOUR story, and you’re not making any sense!
(And BTW, of the multiple versions of this retread urban legend— with Trump inserted—that are being passed around, the Veteran “reporting” that it really for sure happened is a whole new angle that has never been “reported” in previous versions, but is now piled on top like whipped cream and a cherry. Because anyone who would question Trump AND the Veterans he using as props is a dirty RINO GOPe commie scum!
I see what you-—and Trump!—did there!

But wait—let’s parse this a little more. Perhaps I’ve misunderstood you. Perhaps the Afghanistan war veteran who lost his leg is NOT “the guy” who changed Trump’s tire and got his mortgage paid off.
Are you saying he only stood on stage (near Trump) and “reported” that Trump “didn’t even take credit” for “anonymously” paying off a mortgage of “some [other, unidentified] guy” who has never come forward to make any such claim himself?
But then how could this be a “first hand account”?
Again, do you even hear yourself?

Although I didn’t see it—I don’t watch TV—I don’t doubt you when you say that Trump convinced some decent young soldier to stand up on national TV and help his candidacy in whatever way he was asked.
I am saying the original story of the flat tire and the paid off mortgage doesn’t pass the smell test, no matter how you tell it.
I don’t believe the soldier was “the guy” nor do I believe he would intentionally lie when he “reported” this story, if indeed he did.

Perhaps the veteran is just a decent, trusting person, like yourself naively believing and repeating what he’s heard on the internet, believing everything his favored candidate says, while failing to apply even the most rudimentary logic to the candidate ‘s inconsistencies.
Perhaps he’s hoping that Trump will pay off his mortgage, or his medical bills, or whatever, but would never ask. I’ll bet Trump knows he’s hoping for something like that.
That’s exactly how Trump played him.


53 posted on 02/03/2016 1:27:18 AM PST by mumblypeg (Reality is way more complicated than the internet. That's why I'm here.)
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To: JoSixChip

“....an Afghanistan veteran who lost his leg fighting for people like you who have never done anything but bitch about people who have through her keyboard.”

I didn’t even catch that direct attack on me at first reading.
As I already pointed out, you didn’t mention any Afghanistan war veteran in your first blather about “the guy” who got his mortgage paid off “anonymously” by Trump. You brought up the Veteran in your second post, in which you contradicted your first version of the ever-changing urban legend, and then suddenly, immediately after your first mention of the veteran, you accuse me of “bitching” about veterans.
Again, do you even hear yourself?
I did not, nor will I ever, “bitch” about veterans.
I was criticizing YOUR lack of logic and gullibility.
And I will most likely continue to do so. And I. Will. Win.

FYI, there are SIX Veterans of FOUR wars in my family.
Vietnam. Granada. Desert Storm. Iraq / Afghanistan —multiple deployments.
Don’t you dare EVER accuse me of disrespecting my military family.


54 posted on 02/03/2016 2:07:30 AM PST by mumblypeg (Reality is way more complicated than the internet. That's why I'm here.)
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To: Rome2000
Ted is rapidly becoming VERY unlikable.

Maybe so, but, nevertheless, I'm voting for the Natural Born Canuck!

55 posted on 02/03/2016 2:18:14 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: GodGunsGuts

Wow, Cruz certainly won’t win any delegates in New York so how is a measly 7 delegates from Iowa going to help him?


56 posted on 02/03/2016 4:19:06 AM PST by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Trump compared Carson to a child molester.


Do you have a reference for that outrageous statement?


57 posted on 02/03/2016 4:20:38 AM PST by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: mumblypeg
I was criticizing YOUR lack of logic and gullibility. And I will most likely continue to do so. And I. Will. Win.

See tagline
58 posted on 02/03/2016 7:32:49 AM PST by JoSixChip (Ted Cruz (R-Goldman Sachs) - losers are not winners)
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To: GodGunsGuts

“Cruz Credits Attack on Trump’s ‘NY Values’ in Iowa Win”

LOL! I guess it’s better than the truth.


59 posted on 02/03/2016 7:52:56 AM PST by moehoward
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To: JoSixChip

Where in my post did I express any support, defense of, or even mention of Mr. Cruz’s name and well-publicized campaign shenanigans and questionable backers? Did I mention Mr. Cruz’s name? Did you hear me suggest that Mr. Cruz’s activities should never, ever be challenged?

You did not. Because I did not, nor would I ever, suggest such a thing. You’re perfectly welcome to support any candidate, and oppose the other. And I welcome the chance to hear your opinions, and the rants and reasons behind them, in order to help me decide. But facts, links, evidence to support your claims,please.
If what you’re posting is illogical bullshit I’ll say so, I don’t care which candidate your bullshit is supporting.
When I said I Will Win, you somehow misconstrued me saying Cruz will win, which is NOT what I said. Logic starts with being able to understand and remain inside the parameters of the discussion.

Did you hear me attack your character, question your patriotism, or call you a “loser” for being against Cruz? You did not, because I would not, ever do such a thing, because I question, challenge, EVERY statement of fact or fantasy by EVERY candidate.
You weren’t even talking about Cruz, neither was I.

You posted your undying love and starry -eyed worship for Trump, and you cited an idiotic, unsourced, and obviously unfactual, bit of discredited doggerel as “proof” that any challenge of such nonsense is somehow an attack on Veterans (! ) by people who MUST somehow automatically be as blindly idolatrous of Cruz as you are of Trump, and therefore “losers.”

Your idol-worship of Trump has now extended to include mimicry of his favorite insults.

SMH here, wondering if you are being intentionally ironic. Somehow I doubt it, because any intent at irony would require a level of self-awareness that is evidently as absent here as logic.


60 posted on 02/03/2016 1:42:07 PM PST by mumblypeg (Reality is way more complicated than the internet. That's why I'm here.)
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