Posted on 02/02/2016 9:14:33 AM PST by Abakumov
You must want your country given away then
You are deluding yourself
I know that. I’m voting for Ted but I’m hoping that by being nice to the Trump people they will not sit home and pout on Election Day. And what can I do I will have to vote for Donald if he gets the primary and say a prayer and get a drink
On December 8, 1941, issue number one for any conservative was who would prosecute the war and protect America's people and its interests. Roosevelt did some things well, and some things (like giving the Soviets half of Europe) badly. But he united the country in the goal of winning a war up to the unconditional surrender of America's enemies. If the best person on tax policy and Supreme Court justices been worse for the country on prosecuting the war, a conservative, i.e. a person seeking the preservation of America, its culture, people and interests, would nt have supported that person. To do so would be to endanger America because of a dispute over regulation of corn prices.
America faces a couple of similar existential threats today. One from the inside, and one from the outside. Democrats and Republican establishment types seek to replace the American people (and already have to a great extent) with a new demographic entity filled with third world peasants, illiterates and pliant lefties. Coupled with a new generation of ill-educated American children, and there will be no America.
At the same time, America and all civilization are threatened from outside by an invasion from the Muslim world. Europe is already being overrun, and seems unable to fight back. Islam could be destroyed 1000 times over at this point in history if we wanted to. In 20-30 years, it might be destroying us. It needs to be stopped in its place RIGHT NOW and then rolled back as a belief system, in the same way that communism was destroyed as a monolithic belief system. (It continues in America under other names, but that is a different story).
Give me the best candidate on those two issues, and 8 years of battle, and I will happily support that man.
Cruz, I think, agrees with me on those two issues. But so does Trump. And Trump is a fighter, a populist, but not necessarily in the bad sense of the word. In the same way that Reagan was, someone who ignites a movement among people and can lead and inspire. He can expand the map to include states like NY and PA, and that is game over for Democrats.
I'm not sure that Cruz can be that guy, and I fear that his only role at this point is to help the establishment take down Trump. He will then be destroyed, and they will give us Rubio, who will open the floodgates.
Under your definition, and Rush's apparently, Rubio might be conservative. He's not; he will lead to our destruction as a people, and thereby, the end of conservatism.
Your scorecard definition of conservatism is not my definition. My definition is, who is most likely to preserve the ability of conservatives to take this country back and restore a Constitutional Republic? Trump is that guy. I will be happy to be wrong if Cruz is elected, but right now, I don't want to take the chance.
“Your scorecard definition of conservatism is not my definition.”
None of the current three front-runners is perfect, and I will happily vote for any of them against the Democrat nominee. However, Trump supports
1. single-payer national health insurance
2. affirmative action
3. ethanol subsidies
4. the use of the power of eminent domain by private developers for projects deemed to have a “public purpose”
for starters. Those positions are not part of a conservative agenda.
He doesn't support single payer, by the way, but there's no point in getting into it with you since you use a scorecard definition of conservatism to determine who to vote for. That kind of thinking is what got us Bush, Bush, Dole, Bush, Bush, McCain, Romney. It's like the canon of a religion, where Republican candidates and establishment leaders repeat, in rote fashion, that they believe this and they believe that. And then they go to DC, and they work with the Democrats, and always, the needle moves left. When the peasants back home get restless, they give us a show vote. And then get back to what they were doing.
The foundation that supports the entire DC structure must be blown up, imploded, blasted to smithereens. Then conservatives who actually believe the canonical principles, and don't merely recite them, might stand a chance. Until then, it's all mental self-gratification.
I would like to know more about Rubio as head of the Florida House of Representatives. I never followed Rubio except for his Gang of 8. Somehow he ended up being the youngest leader in United States History in Florida. Do you know if he was conservative in that position?
That’s like saying the Pirates top the NL Central by coming in third.
“He doesn’t support single payer, by the way, but there’s no point in getting into it with you ...”
Oh, so he was for single-payer, universal health insurance before he was against it? Trump said at one point that Canada and Great Britain have health-care systems that should be a model for the U.S. Having lived in England briefly 15 years ago, I can assure you that we do not want the UK health-care system here.
http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/trump-heart-healthcare-everybody/2016/01/31/id/712069/
i dont know much about that but I know he is a disaster with a check or a government credit card REALLY bad.
he’s going to be so open to bribes it scares me.
i know they’re all vultures.
at least Cruz is a conservative vulture and Trump is a nationalist rich vulture.
can you be a rich vulture? :)
Kasich is a liberal and Rubio is establisment, yet you back them both. Sup wid dat?
The only poll that means anything is the poll in November....
What do the Brits know?
It’s a miracle!!!!!!
Back and forth with a TDSer is a waste of time.
“Back and forth with a TDSer is a waste of time.”
Many Trump supporters project onto him policy positions that Trump simply doesn’t have or doesn’t hold consistently.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.