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US general says carpet bombing against 'our values'
inn ^ | 2/1/16 | Gil Ronen

Posted on 02/01/2016 11:31:37 AM PST by Nachum

Army Lt. Gen. Sean MacFarland, the US commander in charge of the coalition fighting Islamic State (ISIS) in Iraq and Syria, said Monday that carpet bombing the terrorists would be "inconsistent with our values."

The remark is seen as being aimed at Republican presidential candidate Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX).

In December, Cruz pledged to "utterly destroy ISIS," and vowed: "We will carpet-bomb them into oblivion." He even hinted at the use of nuclear weapons, saying: "I don't know if sand can glow in the dark, but we're going to find out."

After being asked to explain why carpet bombing would not be an effective strategy against ISIS, MacFarland told reporters the US was "bound by the laws of armed conflict."

"We're the United States of America. We have a set of guiding principles," he said. "Indiscriminate bombing, where we don't care if we're killing innocents or combatants, is just inconsistent with our values."

MacFarland said that carpet bombing is precisely what Russia is accused of doing in its own air campaign in Syria, in support of Bashar al-Assad.

He added: "Right now we have the moral high ground, and I think that's where we need to stay."

MacFarland claimed the anti-ISIS campaign is making progress in both Iraq and Syria, and that the jihadists had lost about 40% of the territory they had held.

(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia; Syria; US: Texas; War on Terror
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To: NorthMountain
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101 posted on 02/01/2016 2:15:29 PM PST by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: Nachum

Army Lt. Gen. Sean MacFarland.... unfit to lead ... endangers America with his effeminate political view overriding his duty to country....

read how General Sherman looked at war....and executed it

look at Germany and Japan.... WWII

WAR IS ALL ABOUT BREAKING THINGS AND KILLING POEPLE
UNTIL THEY LOSE THE WILL TO FIGHT AND SURRENDER

that is what ISIS is doing..... FIRE WITH FIRE


102 posted on 02/01/2016 2:21:29 PM PST by zzwhale (acts of treason)
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To: Nachum

Army Lt. Gen. Sean MacFarland better retire before President Trump takes office.


103 posted on 02/01/2016 2:49:48 PM PST by McGruff (Are we electing a president or a pope here?)
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104 posted on 02/01/2016 2:50:17 PM PST by DoughtyOne (the Free Republic Caucus: what FReepers are thinking, 100s or 1000s of them. It's up to you.)
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To: Nachum
We should have carpet bombed them back when they were a Jayvee squad.


105 posted on 02/01/2016 2:53:02 PM PST by McGruff (Are we electing a president or a pope here?)
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To: SZonian; Mr. Mojo

If I remember correctly, the “Highway of Death” in Iraq/Kuwait, was from ground fire by the US Army, no actual aerial attack or “carpet bombing” was involved.


106 posted on 02/01/2016 3:45:41 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: GreyFriar

wiki says US and Canadian planes made the deadly strafing runs. Colon Bowel had a fainting spell watching the videos and called a stop....


107 posted on 02/01/2016 3:50:40 PM PST by Covenantor (Men are ruled..e.by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern - Chesterton)
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To: NorthMountain; Nachum; Salvavida

North, you have hit the nail on the head: We (Americans) have generally tried to minimize it [collateral damage].

That is how I read what LTG McFarland is saying. We didn’t “carpet bomb” cities in France, Belgium, Holland, and Italy (after it joined the Allies). We did use “carpet bombing” for the Normandy breakout, Operation Cobra, but that was on the front line and where only Germans were on the ground. Yes I know there were bombs that hit our own troops.


108 posted on 02/01/2016 3:58:39 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: NorthMountain

That is not in debated. When I was trained as a targeteer, collateral damage is a factor and is accepted in many cases.


109 posted on 02/01/2016 4:11:45 PM PST by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: Nachum
Have to agree with Army Lt. Gen. Sean MacFarland’s assessment and I can state with certainty that carpet bombing is absolutely against my values.

Seems no one here realizes just how inefficient and wasteful carpet bombing is in these day of JDAMS and precision guided munitions. Why in the world would anyone want to use a full bombay filled with 90,000 lbs of munitions, 80% of which miss target and are wasted, when a handful of 500ls JDAMS could have got the job done

110 posted on 02/01/2016 4:12:22 PM PST by rdcbn ("If what has happened here is not treason, it is its first cousin." Zell Miller)
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To: Nachum
US general says carpet bombing against 'our values'

I'm just glad this new kinder, gentler Obama general was not around during WW2.

I hate German.

111 posted on 02/01/2016 4:29:52 PM PST by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW! evil ignorant stupid or crazy-doesn't matter!)
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To: Nachum

MacFarland had better have a conversation with General Curtis LeMay, as the ghost from Carpet Bombing past!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_LeMay


112 posted on 02/01/2016 4:33:17 PM PST by Candor7 ( Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Nachum
Half-assing warfare gets ten times as many innocents killed in the long run.

Idiot Compassion rears its blockhead again!

113 posted on 02/01/2016 4:38:11 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: Salvavida
collateral damage is a factor and is accepted in many cases.

Yes. There's a difference between accepted or tolerated, and actively sought. Historically, I think we (USA) have a very good record.

The 0bama Regime ROE are insane, though.

114 posted on 02/01/2016 7:02:10 PM PST by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: Nachum

What would Patton do with a general like this?


115 posted on 02/01/2016 9:19:08 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Nachum

Speak for yourself there, pajama boy!


116 posted on 02/01/2016 9:26:18 PM PST by Let's Roll (So much left-wing thought is playing with fire by those who don't even know fire is hot - Orwell)
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To: MrB
Wars are not won by precision bombing. To win a war, you kill enough people and break enough things that the enemy stops fighting rather than take any more.

Genghis Khan had very exact rules of how to deal with his enemies that he had conquered. They were brutal but scientifically applied brutality. Its purpose was to instill fear in those that may resist, gain allies and support from those that will not resist.

Brutality for the sake of brutality is counterproductive. Selective applied brutality works. It is effective. We carpet bombed the Iraqi soldiers in the desert during the first Iraq war. We bombed them for weeks. When we finally invaded, they could not surrender fast enough. They did not want anymore carpet bombing.

117 posted on 02/01/2016 9:38:40 PM PST by cpdiii (DECKHAND, ROUGHNECK, GEOLOGIST, PILOT, PHARMACIST, LIBERTARIAN The Constitution is worth dying for.)
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To: Nachum
""Right now we have the moral high ground, and I think that's where we need to stay." "

You can be said to occupy the "moral high ground" if you just infinitesimally more virtuous than the party to whom you are compared.
118 posted on 02/01/2016 10:31:36 PM PST by clearcarbon
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