I've Had it with the Line 'But We're Not Electing a Pastor-in-Chief'

Townhall.com ^ | February 1, 2016 | Michael Brown

[Kaslin]

I don't like worthless, empty slogans, but I have a real problem when those worthless, empty slogans are used to justify a moral or theological position.

To give one example, the slogan "Love is love" is bad enough, but it's far worse when it's used to justify same-sex "marriage."

In the same way, I'm not keen on the line, "But we're electing a president, a commander-in-chief, not a pastor-in-chief." But when it's used to justify voting for someone who has a long track record of being ruthless, cruel, unchristian, immoral, profane, full of pride, greedy, and double-minded, then I have a real problem with it.

Put another way, does the fact that we're electing a president, not a pastor (or priest or Pope) mean that the president doesn't need to have a solid moral base? That he doesn't need integrity? That he can mistreat and abuse others? That he can be petulant, self-centered, and nasty? That ethics don't matter since he's our political leader not our spiritual leader?

What kind of thinking is that?

I'm glad to see that Jerry Falwell, Jr. quickly stepped away from his "St. Donald" rhetoric - rhetoric that I took issue with and that blogger Matt Walsh rightly excoriated.

In explaining why he endorsed Trump, Falwell noted that Liberty University, the university his father founded and of which he now serves as president, went through tremendous financial challenges in its early years, years he describes as "stressful and precarious."

But, he stated, "We hired the best lawyers, accountants and financial management we could find without regard to whether they shared our faith, just like a parent would search for the best doctor for their desperately sick child."

For that reason, Falwell has endorsed Donald Trump.

But that's where his comparison breaks down.

The ethical, moral core of Liberty University was sound and its leadership was ethically and morally upright. It needed help with its financial planning and administration.

But if its ethical and moral core was corrupt, then all the lawyers, accountants, and financial managers in the world could not have helped Liberty fulfill its God-given mission.

In contrast, America's ethical and moral core is rotten, and our current presidential leadership is ethically and morally rotten. And until we address our moral and ethical rot America will not be great again, nor will it have the blessing of God.

It is completely misguided, then, to think that a proficient businessman can "bring this country back from the brink and make America great again" - to quote Falwell's own words - "in the same way that the right team of professionals helped make Liberty great again between 1987 and today."

The comparison is, in my view, both invalid and inept. It also begs the question of what makes America "great."

Would we say that Saudi Arabia is "great" because it is so prosperous? Would we say that Russia is "great" because it has a strong military?

Think back to our greatest presidents, from Washington to Lincoln to Reagan. All of them were men of integrity, regardless of the depth of their religious faith. All of them had a strong moral base that guided them.

The same can hardly be said of Donald Trump, as any number of his quotes and actions can verify.

More importantly, in the sight of God, can Christians, especially Christian leaders, imagine that God will bless our efforts to balance our budget while we continue to slaughter the unborn? That He will help us defeat our enemies while we are the world leader in pornography and while we enshrine homosexual practice as a Constitutional right?

Isn't this the very thing for which God often rebuked Israel, namely, trying to solve their military and economic problems while ignoring their ethical and spiritual problems?

Yes, I'm quite aware of the fact that America is not Israel, but does any God-fearing, American Christian believe that God will overlook our many sins and bless us again because we have a rich businessman as president? Or do any of us think that American can be great again without divine blessing?

Someone might still say, "But that's the whole point. Our president is not the spiritual leader of the country."

Of course he is not, but he should be a moral and ethical leader, a leader who will make godly choices - just think in terms of Supreme Court appointees - a leader, ideally, who truly fears God.

Just look at the terrible, national damage Barack Obama has done by aggressively supporting same-sex "marriage" and how shameful it is that he lit up our White House in gay rainbow colors and that he pressures other countries to embrace gay activism.

The president has the bully pulpit - and much more - for better or for worse.

Consider also how Bill Clinton's presidential conduct helped young people embrace the idea that oral sex was not sex.

And how is it that the same evangelicals who wanted to condemn President Clinton because of his adulterous history seem unconcerned about Mr. Trump’s adulterous history, a history of which he openly boasted, talking freely and proudly about the many famous married women with whom he had sex? (Don't forget that rather than regretting his past actions and repudiating them, he continues to insist that he's a good person who doesn't need forgiveness from God.)

I am honestly not looking to elect a perfect saint as president nor am I asking the candidates how well they know the Bible or how many hours a day they pray.

But I am looking for someone who, along with dealing with our budget and immigration and national security, will stand for righteousness and lead with integrity.

And since we have a number of capable, God-fearing candidates, some of whom currently outpoll Hillary Clinton (while Trump is frequently outpolled by her), I will confront the empty, "We're not electing a pastor-in-chief" slogan wherever I find it.

[LibFreeUSA]

... all ideologues go to the back of the room.....

* * * TRUMP 2016 * * *

[deport]

If the polls are correct then the next hope is that they get out to caucus.
If not then the polls are nothing but people expressing a wish to be
with the winner.

[exit82]

Electing a Pastor-in-Chief gave us Carter.

Electing a Pastor-in-Chief would give us Mike Huckabee—no thanks!

Sometimes you just need a Cyrus—and God sends you one.

Go Trump!

[Kaslin]

Bro? New Flash!!! Are you trying to be funny I have never been a bro.

[Nevadan]

As someone who voted for Carter the first time around because I thought he was a godly man, I definitely am not so easily suckered in anymore. Just because someone says they believe in God doesn't means they will be a good president. Carter was a total disaster and has gone even more to the left since he was president. Huckabee is sleezy in my opinion. He looks good on the outside but is totally to move left when it benefits him.

[Kaslin]

Thanks, that is great to hear.

[pgkdan]

I expect Trump to be the nominee but if he’s not I will vote for the Republican nominee. A Hillary or Sanders presidency is unthinkable.

[DouglasKC]

Put another way, does the fact that we're electing a president, not a pastor (or priest or Pope) mean that the president doesn't need to have a solid moral base? That he doesn't need integrity? That he can mistreat and abuse others? That he can be petulant, self-centered, and nasty? That ethics don't matter since he's our political leader not our spiritual leader?

The problem with this view is that none of us really know the candidates hearts or minds. We're basing our decision on political propaganda.

[spincaster]

I understand how you feel but we need a leader with moral clarity. Not a man who will continue to erode our values. If we don’t stop this run away train now, we are doomed. Lets save the greatest Nation in the world. Our kids and grand kids deserve at least a chance.
Go Cruz

[DouglasKC]

As someone who voted for Carter the first time around because I thought he was a godly man, I definitely am not so easily suckered in anymore. Just because someone says they believe in God doesn't means they will be a good president. Carter was a total disaster and has gone even more to the left since he was president. Huckabee is sleezy in my opinion. He looks good on the outside but is totally to move left when it benefits him.

Good point and example...

[higgmeister]

Dr. Brown, you just gave a heart felt argument to vote for Jimmy Carter. How did that work out for us.

Jimmy Carter's 'Lust in the Heart' Playboy Interview - 1976

[patq]

Hey Mikey, we’re not electing a pastor-in-chief.

[elhombrelibre]

If we lower the standards for Trump, we’re no longer on firm ground for having attacked Bill Clinton. In fact, Trump understood this, that he was on the same wavelength as Bill, when he said that Clinton’s obstruction of justice, perjury, and sexual harassment were unimportant. Trump supported an amoral view of Trump for the same reason we’re supposed to look at him through that lens.

[Balding_Eagle]

Will you vote for the nominee in the general election if it is someone other than Donald Trump?

There is someone other than Trump running?

[JustSurrounded]

Well, my answer used to be, “why yes, of course, as I always have voted for the Republican candidate.” This year, however, I think not, if it is Cruz. I simply do not believe he’s eligible. I think upholding the Constitution is all our responsibilities, not just the responsibility of our elected officials or the RNC.

I think, if Trump is the nominee, the best thing — actually, the best thing either way — for us to do is try to pack the House and the Senate with as many Constitutional conservatives as possible. The government is bigger than just a president.

[DannyTN]

Trump is a living rosarch test. We look at him, filter his antics, actions and words through our internal prisms, then describe the colors we see. I see Red White and Blue, in bold bright strong hues.

And I see competence..

• Economic competence, correctly identifying Jobs and industrial loss as key issues. And correctly identifying trade policy and immigration as the key factors driving the loss of jobs and industries.
• Organizational competence. Trump has successfully built and managed a large organization and multiple partnerships in a for profit environment. That tells me he knows how to define key metrics and measure performance. He knows how to select leaders to run his various ventures and properties. That he is quick to respond to market conditions.
• Communications competence. Yes Trump is brash when attacked. But he has managed more than any other candidate to communicate his plans and vision. He has put formal policy papers on his web site. He has used social media to excellent effect. He has mastered the art of the rally.
• Leadership competence. Trump can size people up quickly. He's not afraid to say "You're fired" and our government can surely use a man with his skills. He has a ton of contacts and can pull the right people for jobs.
• Negotiation competence. He wrote "the art of the deal", and his record speaks for itself.
• Foreign Policy competence. Trump has dealt with foreign governments and leaders as a businessman. He correctly identified oil as the source of ISIS wealth and called for bombing it.

[Kaslin]

Thanks, your answer tells me a lot. Really it does.

[mrsmel]

I am as staunch a Christian fundamentalist as you can find, and I would never vote for Huckabee. Socialism is not a Christian value, it is covetousness. Neither is it very Christian to release murderers who are paying their debt to society, so that they can go right out and prey on yet another innocent person.

[exit82]

Agree with your view on Huckabee.

[dfwgator]

I don’t care what one’s religious views are if they are prepared to defend Judeo-Christian civilization.

Many an atheist, even understands that we abandon Judeo-Christian culture at our peril.