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1 posted on 01/30/2016 3:02:15 AM PST by richardb72
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Also, don’t forget that if suicides are counted among “gun deaths”, to be fair one has to include suicides (and other deaths) by CO poisoning from automobile exhaust along with traffic fatalities in “auto deaths”.


2 posted on 01/30/2016 3:05:24 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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In most states, if you deducted suicide by gun and hunter accidental shootings...you’d probably wipe out a third of the statistics for the state.

Oddly, in several states (Tenn, I think for example)....if you noted motorcycle accident deaths from May to October...it’s a significant number and it’d scare folks to realize how many guys die on weekend motorcycle drives. But we don’t ever talk about that because it’s guns that we get all focused on.

If you brought up boating injuries during summer months, and alcohol attributing to the episode....that would freak people out. But I don’t see anyone hyped up enough to do much.


3 posted on 01/30/2016 3:07:31 AM PST by pepsionice
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The Violence Policy Center seems to be a broken record on this issue. Of course being heavily funded by Soros may have something to do with it. Fitting that a Hitler loving Nazi would want Americans disarmed isn't it?

http://bearingarms.com/fail-violence-policy-center-is-caught-fabricating-anti-gun-data-again-still/ http://kleinonline.wnd.com/2015/06/21/soros-group-americans-dont-really-use-guns-for-self-defense/

4 posted on 01/30/2016 3:18:14 AM PST by jsanders2001
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The Violence Policy Center seems to be a broken record on this issue. Of course being heavily funded by Soros may have something to do with it. Fitting that a Hitler loving Nazi would want Americans disarmed isn't it?

http://bearingarms.com/fail-violence-policy-center-is-caught-fabricating-anti-gun-data-again-still/

http://kleinonline.wnd.com/2015/06/21/soros-group-americans-dont-really-use-guns-for-self-defense/

5 posted on 01/30/2016 3:18:38 AM PST by jsanders2001
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“Which are you more likely to be killed by: a car or a gun? We all know how many people die on the roads each year, so it would be mindblowing if there were actually more gun deaths than motor vehicle deaths.”

The correct question is how may people are shot to death on American highways? (it’s early and I’m being snarky)


6 posted on 01/30/2016 3:19:51 AM PST by Artie (We are surrounded by MORONS)
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I think they just make up the numbers like most liberals do. They know most people won’t fact check them and will take their word for it since they have an “official” sounding name. Plus they know if you keep spouting the same lie over and over again people will eventually accept it as the truth.


8 posted on 01/30/2016 3:32:01 AM PST by jsanders2001
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That 105 number for unintentional shootings seems too high.

"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's (CDC) final report on death statistics for 2013 shows there were 35,369 deaths from motor vehicle accidents versus 505 deaths from the accidental discharge of firearms."

It's intellectually dishonest to conflate deaths from murder, accidents and suicides. I'm most concerned with homicides, since homicide victims don't want to die.

To point out the demographics of the majority of murder victims and their killers is politically incorrect. If we subtract that demographic, the US has a homicide rate roughly the same as Norway. The gun grabbers probably don't care very much about the problem demographic, and so they inflate the numbers by adding in suicides and accidents.

9 posted on 01/30/2016 3:32:27 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("In a democracy, the people get the government they deserve." - Alexis de Tocqueville (1805-1859))
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Of the 596 deaths by suicide, how many of those people would have chosen another method if a gun was not available?


11 posted on 01/30/2016 3:46:02 AM PST by ImNotLying (The Constitution is an instrument for the people to restrain the government...Patrick Henry)
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Death from an accidental fall is right up there with gun deaths and traffic deaths, but the number one accidental death is from poisoning which includes drug overdoses.


13 posted on 01/30/2016 4:11:07 AM PST by klgator
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If you're not a black or Hispanic male living in an area with a lot of other black or Hispanic males, your chances of getting shot to death are minuscule.

In my state, Wisconsin, virtually all gun-related deaths occur in Milwaukee which has one of the highest murder rates in the nation. Almost all the homicide victims are black males dead by firearms.

Outside of Milwaukee the chances of getting killed by a gun are ridiculously low despite the fact that Wisconsin has millions of guns. Lots of hunters in Wisconsin.

But since I'm not a deer hunter, my chances are lower yet. It seems about five to ten deer hunters in Wisconsin are accidentally killed by stray bullets every season. But even those numbers might be going down (I haven't checked the totals lately.)

Wisconsin recorded its lowest motor vehicle death rate ever in 2014 with 496 deaths from motor vehicles. The state homicide rate was 165 with the great majority of those homicides occurring in Milwaukee. Last year Milwaukee set a record for homicides.

16 posted on 01/30/2016 4:58:16 AM PST by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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“Stopping drug gangs from getting guns is about as easy as stopping them from getting drugs.”


17 posted on 01/30/2016 5:31:45 AM PST by ChessExpert (The unemployment rate was 4.5% when Democrats took control of Congress in 2006.)
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Figures don’t lie but liars can figure.


18 posted on 01/30/2016 5:52:33 AM PST by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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From the CDC website: “There were an estimated 722,000 HAIs in U.S acute care hospitals in 2011. About 75,000 hospital patients with HAIs died during their hospitalizations. More than half of all HAIs occurred outside of the intensive care unit.” HAI’s are hospital acquired infections.

Which saves more lives? Washing hands or ......


24 posted on 01/30/2016 6:50:53 AM PST by finnsheep
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