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Yuge: Trumpless Debate Earns Higher Ratings Than Last GOP Debate That Included Trump
Townhall.com ^ | January 29, 2016 | Guy Benson

Posted on 01/29/2016 3:58:29 PM PST by Kaslin

That headline is technically accurate: Last night's Trump-free Fox News forum pulled in roughly 12-13 million viewers, better than the 11 million or so who watched the Fox Business debate earlier this month, at which The Donald stood center stage.  Trump out, ratings up!  Well, sort of.  The Des Moines debate was still the second-least watched GOP debate of the cycle (maybe third-least, including online live streams), and many Trump fans -- suddenly highly interested in nuance in context -- are pointing out that the lowest-rated one aired on FBN, which has a smaller footprint than Fox News or CNN nationwide.  True enough, although FBN's November debate rated higher than three others, suggesting that viewership for these events has declined over time, with and without Trump. To wit: The Donald's social media army trying to pit last night's numbers (which dwarfed CNN and MSNBC's combined coverage of the billionaire's counter-programming rally) against Fox's August ratings bonanza, which is a ridiculous comparison.  Fox and CNN's first debates garnered truly massive audiences, then each network experienced a drop-off of millions of viewers in its subsequent debate, as did Fox Business. TV Line probably has the most evenhanded headline I've seen, characterizing the ratings as "steady' in Trump's absence.  The Trump campaign hilariously predicted that just "one or two million" Americans would tune into last night's proceedings.  Oops.  What's undoubtedly clear is that the current cycle's Republican debates are attracting much more attention than they did in 2012:

More context: In 2012, the highest-rated #GOPDebate (ABC NH) drew 7.6 mil viewers.

Without Trump on stage, ~12 mil watched last night.— Guy Benson (@guypbenson) January 29, 2016


And far more eyeballs than the Democrats, who've enjoyed the benefit of two debates televised on over-the-air broadcast networks:

Lowest-rated #GOPDebate (1/14 on FBN) still beat 3 of the 4 Dem debates -- two of which aired on broadcast nets: pic.twitter.com/cz10UMUQch— Guy Benson (@guypbenson) January 29, 2016


Good work, DNC.  The first Republican broadcast network debate of the 2016 race will air next Saturday night on ABC, ahead of the New Hampshire primary.  As I mentioned above, it was this debate (scheduled on the same night and on the same network) that pulled in the biggest rating of 2012.  Expect a big viewership surge this year, as well -- due to added interest after actual voting has begun, the wide accessibility its over-the-air network host, and, yes, the return of Donald Trump.  Assuming he doesn't throw another  spiteful conniption fit and run away again, that is.   I'll leave you with this:

Luntz Focus Group Has Overwhelming Reaction to Trump Skipping GOP



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
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To: Kaslin

The debate best both CNN and MSNBC carrying Trump by about 4:1.

I thought a Trump would draw more.

I also note how Megyn Kelly’s new hair-do looks a lot like Trump’s.


21 posted on 01/29/2016 4:18:44 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: dforest

Going for the Claire Underwood look it would seem.


22 posted on 01/29/2016 4:19:08 PM PST by usafa92 (Conservative in Jersey)
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To: Enlightened1

Funny - I remember Donnie’s douchebag lackey saying that the debate would be lucky to get two million after “Mr. Trump” decided to puss out like the coward he is. Debate ended up second highest rated program in FNC history.

Donnie and his Chavez-esue variety hour, meanwhile...


23 posted on 01/29/2016 4:19:08 PM PST by HoosierDammit ("When that big rock n' roll clock strikes 12, I will be buried with my Tele on!" Bruce Springsteen)
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To: dforest

She’s trying out the Rachel Maddow look...?


24 posted on 01/29/2016 4:20:06 PM PST by Covenantor (Men are ruled..e.by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern - Chesterton)
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To: Kaslin

Wow, mainstream, does this mean Trump is over?


25 posted on 01/29/2016 4:20:31 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: dforest

“Good grief. Kelly looks ugly on that photo. What happened to her?”

Looks older. Different make up.

They tried to move from the Barbie doll look to a more serious nature look.


26 posted on 01/29/2016 4:21:19 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: dforest

I think they put her makeup on with a trowell. Probably had to remove it with a firehouse. At age 45 less is more. :-)


27 posted on 01/29/2016 4:21:37 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: dforest

It’s all the bleeding. She bled all the humanity right out of her....

...eyes


28 posted on 01/29/2016 4:21:57 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Kaslin
Wondering? When a ball team does not show up for a game, or refuses to play.....

What do they call that? FORFEIT.....or win?

Forfeit only has one meaning....LOSERS.

29 posted on 01/29/2016 4:22:49 PM PST by annieokie
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To: Covenantor

“She’s trying out the Rachel Maddow look...?”

I still say she is unconsciously imitating Trump’s hair-do.

Freudian stuff going on maybe.


30 posted on 01/29/2016 4:23:12 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Kaslin

We can’t believe a word the government tells us. The media works for the government. So why should we believe they’re telling the truth about viewers?


31 posted on 01/29/2016 4:24:34 PM PST by VerySadAmerican
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To: Kaslin

ouch to Trump since he didn’t get those viewer numbers for his scam show


32 posted on 01/29/2016 4:24:44 PM PST by RginTN (Donald J Trump- why would the people of Ky want a rookie senator when they have Sen Mitch Mcconnell)
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To: ifinnegan
I also note how Megyn Kelly's new hair-do looks a lot like Trump's.

Funny, her new hairdo reminds me of the Borg Queen...


33 posted on 01/29/2016 4:24:50 PM PST by COBOL2Java (I'll vote for Jeb when Terri Schiavo endorses him.)
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To: dforest

“Good grief. Kelly looks ugly on that photo. What happened to her?”

Remember The Picture of Dorian Gray?

Well, she doesn’t have a picture. Evil will out.


34 posted on 01/29/2016 4:26:21 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ...

35 posted on 01/29/2016 4:26:47 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: COBOL2Java

Funny.


36 posted on 01/29/2016 4:26:54 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Kaslin
My Twitter prediction this week on the ratings was spot-on:

@AJDelgado13 I'll guess it gets 12 million. The recent Dem debate got 10 million. The lowest Rep one was the recent FoxBiz at 11 million.— Eric Sansoni (@JediJones77) January 27, 2016

The debate ratings have been steadily declining. CNN's 2nd debate had millions less than their first and the 2nd FoxBiz debate had a few million less than their first. Trump's absence seemed to have resulted in about 2 million leaving to watch his special on the other channels. I'd say at most another 1.5 million who would've watched anyway just didn't watch TV at all.
37 posted on 01/29/2016 4:27:01 PM PST by JediJones ("Beautiful, famous, successful, married - I've had them all, secretly." -Trump on women in 2007 book)
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To: Kaslin
A debate on Fox News Channel barely outperformed one on Fox Business Channel. What a win, not.
38 posted on 01/29/2016 4:28:26 PM PST by Company Man (I say we take off and Trump the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.)
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To: COBOL2Java

She looks like Ivan Drago’s wife in RockyIV...


39 posted on 01/29/2016 4:28:45 PM PST by Boonie ("Nuke 'em all...Let Allah sort 'em out...)
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To: Enlightened1

It’s somewhat easier to tell when Trump is simply making stuff up when he gives us hard numbers that are easily verifiable as nonsense. If only his supporters could detect the rest of his nonsense as easily.


40 posted on 01/29/2016 4:29:58 PM PST by JediJones ("Beautiful, famous, successful, married - I've had them all, secretly." -Trump on women in 2007 book)
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