Posted on 01/28/2016 9:55:59 PM PST by Helicondelta
In the middle of tonight's debate, Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, Jeb Bush and Rand Paul spent about ten minutes trading accusations of inconsistency on immigration reform. It felt like the last ten minutes of The Departed, where almost every major character suffered a grievous injury.
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Trump holds the record for flip flops on immigration. He doesn’t even support deporting them anymore according to his own website. Amnesty, then round them up deport them all, wait we’ll let them back in and now - deport only the criminals.
lOLOLOL
I know none of you guy mind donnie’s flip flops, so give it a rest or admit your own.
Yeah right.
Wait-stop the presses.. You are reading NR again? How can this be, they dissed your dude.
“Cruz took some heavy shots and is now taking on water.”
I felt like that was likely to happen without Trump being there to act as the primary lighting rod for both the FNC moderator attacks and attacks by the other candidates. Trump’s absence moved the bulls-eye from Trump to Cruz, and personally I don’t think Cruz responded all that well to either the moderator attacks or the candidate attacks.
“It appears Trump avoided a minefield tonight.”
Since you admit he avoided a minefield then you admit he has been lying to you.
The MSM (and the nightly comedy shows) present FOX as a right wing extreme Republican channel.
I guess it’s all we have at this point. I don’t receive One America.
“Trump Avoids the Immigration Flip-Flopping Bloodbath”
Perfect time for my Trump “reminder”!
Let us not forget that just a few weeks ago, Trump singularly upset the whole election apple cart!
Trump set the national agenda by opposing illegal immigration and bringing up other issues that the GOPe and their allies desperately wanted to avoid, and now they can’t.
The GOPe was not prepared for this, and as a consequence they don’t have a clue about what to do, hence their almost universal collapse into a pile of quivering jello, flip-flopping like a bag of Mexican jumping beans dumped on a hot griddle.
Trump has exposed those who pretend to be conservative but are really just fronts for big money establishment campaign donors who purchase their candidates with campaign “donations”.
Trump, by actually being a real man, has exposed the other candidates (Cruz excepting of course) and their allies for the weak little sniveling sellouts that they really are.
Trump’s vociferous truth-telling and fearless neutering of the kommie media have been the catalyst that triggered a massive revolt amongst conservative voters who are infuriated at the GOPe Congress doing absolutely ZERO to stop Obama’s agenda, and suddenly the GOP RINO leadership is in full blown panic mode and in full blown retreat, and the SMALL conservative House contingent smelt blood in the water, took heart, and charged in against a weakened, frightened and paralyzed GOPe leadership, and Boehner was taken out as a sacrificial lamb.
Trump is absolutely correct when he says that without Trump in the race, everything would be same-ol’, same-ol. The Joyful Tippy-Toes Turtle would be creeping closer to the finish line, Boehner would still be safely ensconced as Speaker, and there would be no mention of illegal immigration are any of the issues surrounding it by any politician in either party, other than possibly how critical it would be to pass immigration “reform”.
The media are loath to make the connection, but it’s obvious that the Boehner resignation was yet another falling domino, toppling due to the Trump Effect, because Trump’s unabashed truth-telling and fearless neutering of the kommie media triggered a revolt amongst the great unwashed GOP masses which emboldened a few conservative Congress critters to grow a few pairs.
And our nation wouldn’t even be having ANY of these conversations about illegal immigration and the myriad of other Obammunist issues destroying our country if it wasn’t for Trump. Instead, we’d simply be debating which RINO, GOPe squish would be least likely to be stomped by Hillary, and the GOPe would once again be exhorting the “base” about how critical it is for us to once again vote for the “lesser of two evils”, that is, vote for the GOPe side of the Uniparty coin.
And do note that ALL of the oligarchs and plutocrats are frightened to death of Donald Trump because the billionaires and millionaires can’t buy him like all of the other politicians they routinely purchase, because Trump doesn’t need nor want their money, and the kommie media is frightened to death of him because he isn’t afraid of them either, the bottom line being that Donald Trump can not be controlled by the rich and powerful or the corrupt media, so for anyone who is truly for campaign finance reform and wants to take money out of politics, voting for Trump is the only reasonable choice.
President Trump is really the last hope for this country: if he can’t undo any of the damage wrought by the Obammunists, the U.S.A. is done.
So least we forget, the above, and much more, are called “The Trump Effect”.
Know what you call a lawyer with an IQ over 50?
Your Honor.
A debate isn’t supposed to be a mine field. Trump likely wrapped Iowa up tonight. Too bad you missed the rally.
Did Fox bring out the muslim, illegal immigrant against the other candidates or did they drop that idea when Trump didn’t show up?
Has Cruz done this , or any other candidates for that matter ?
Massive Trump rally , giving voice to those that have lost loved ones to illegals :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOpugF5QgYA
What Trump has to say today doesn’t interest me in the least little bit because it will change tomorrow and I would be expected to act as if what he said today was never said.
Know what you call a lawyer with an IQ over 50?
Your Honor.
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Wow. Feels bad man. :)
Problem with this is that Sessions wasn't on record opposing legalization at that time. In fact, Rush Limbaugh was even on board with legalization. All the press releases at that time complained only about citizenship and legalization BEFORE border security, but never said a word about being opposed to legalization in and of itself. Meanwhile, Ted Cruz called legalization of illegals part of "common sense immigration reform."
Sessions can claim that Ted Cruz fought the bill, but the fact is, what they were fighting was the pathway to citizenship. Nobody was fighting legalization. And, lastly, Cruz supported legalization even after the fight was over, such as in his interview with the Texas Tribune in September, and again as recently as March of this year, and then throughout the campaign, for the past 9 months, Cruz dodged questions about legalization and refused to rule it out when asked.
The bigger picture, legalization vs. citizenship, I too find Cruz evasive.
Funny thing is, the president doesn't set that policy, Congress does.
I’m not a Trump supporter, but if he gets the nomination, we’ll be saying president Trump next year.
I can honestly say I’ve never seen a candidate running that so controlled not only the media but the narrative like Trump.
Love him or hate him, you got to respect that
“Donnie”, as you call him, was not there. Relax. Teddy has it in the bag. Don’t be so nervous.
So he’s on the border in El Paso and said something different and the Tribune picked that up:
So, he’s really following Trump’s lead and rewriting his history on the issue.
If he’s changed, okay tell us. I think he looks weak lying about it.
I think I have an answer since I asked a similar question.
His admendment was intended to take away the granting of citizenship out of the Gang of 8’s bill - with Cruz’s admendment the illegals could still “come out of the shadows” and be legal but not citizens. So this must be why Sessions went along with it - they deleted the proposed citizenship for illegals.
But apparently what really killed it was the public outrage.
So Dems said they wanted ‘come out from the shadows’ when they really just wanted to register millions of new Democrat voters.
Problem is Republican party is financially controlled by the cheap labor express who want cheap labor.
Supply and demand. Big supply of cheap illegal labor = 50% unemployment rate for blacks in the big cities.
Dems are for ‘raising the minimum wage’ when their open borders policy is the prime mover in keeping wages depressed for the unskilled.
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