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The problem with Trump’s change of heart on abortion
RNS News ^ | January 26, 2016 | Trevin Wax

Posted on 01/26/2016 4:35:43 PM PST by presidio9

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To: BobL

I agree. I don’t trust any Republican on immigration. But I trust Trump the least because: 1. He has a long track record on the other side. 2. He says things all the time and then says something else. His promise is worth nothing. 3. If you look at the stuf he still says, it’s riddled with amnesty talk. 4. He has a vested financial interest in illegal immigration.


21 posted on 01/26/2016 4:56:29 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Politicalkiddo

“You don’t care that nascent human beings are being slaughtered and their lifeless corpses sold by an evil disgusting organization that is using our tax dollars to do these horrifying things? That’s a disgusting viewpoint to have.”

Considering that there is NO WAY IN HELL that Cruz will be able to reach beyond the base and therefore cannot win in November, I guess we’re stuck or Hillary...so who really has the “disgusting viewpoint”, one that enables Hillary (or Biden) to take power, or one that rolls the dice with Trump?


22 posted on 01/26/2016 4:57:12 PM PST by BobL (Who cares? He's going to build a wall and stop this invasion.)
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To: nickcarraway

What is Mr. Trump’s vested interest in illegal immigration?

Please type clearly and succinctly, in your response.


23 posted on 01/26/2016 5:00:25 PM PST by RedHeeler
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To: nickcarraway
[Donald Trump]He has a vested financial interest in illegal immigration.

At some point I expect the msm to get off its ass and report on this, but technically Donald Trump employs illegal immigrant right now.

He owns seven golf courses, at least four of which are private and employ caddies. The tradition at many clubs is for caddies to operate as private contractors, so that the club can avoid paying benefits. But caddies are fired by a club employee (the starter or the caddymaster) for not showing up or poor performance. They participate in the club's annual employee party, and are eligible for the club's caddie scholarship. They are covered by club insurance for accidents that occur on club property.

In the last ten years, this profession has become overwhelmed by illegal immigrants as one of the most lucrative skilled professions. Donald Trump is well aware that these people are working for him, and he couldn't care less.

24 posted on 01/26/2016 5:08:10 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: nickcarraway

We see differently. As I see it, if the continued supply of Illegals was so important to Trump, he could have just as easily have sat back and let the Republicans give him Amnesty and everything else, as NO REPUBLICAN (until Trump) was about to go against the GOPe and the Donors, not this year, the threats were in place and they were clear, and NO ONE was even talking the issue until Trump...and no one was about to.

Bottom line - the guy is 70, he can move to Australia tomorrow, buy have the continent - I just don’t see a motive for him flat-out lying on the issue, but then anything is possible...particularly being lied to by every other Republican.


25 posted on 01/26/2016 5:09:10 PM PST by BobL (Who cares? He's going to build a wall and stop this invasion.)
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To: RedHeeler
There's one in post 24.

Donald Trump cold make the problem of illegal immigrants working at his golf clubs go away at any time if he actually wanted to.

26 posted on 01/26/2016 5:11:59 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9

Sure, you bet, bud.

Just like you describe.

Just like that.


27 posted on 01/26/2016 5:16:19 PM PST by RedHeeler
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To: presidio9

I’ve had similar opinions for a while but this author puts it better than I could. It allows Trump to claim he is pro life based on some side benefits of the child which are dependent on another humans opinion. It allows him to sidestep pesky questions about when life begins and whether life is sacred.


28 posted on 01/26/2016 5:17:36 PM PST by posterchild
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To: RedHeeler
I assure you that this is the case at Trump National Golf Club in Briarcliff Manor, and Trump International Golf Club in West Palm Beach. I've played both. A lot of undocumented caddies actually migrate between the two with the seasons.

A good caddie at these clubs makes about $100 per round -this sounds better than it really is because you often have to wait a couple of hours in the caddy yard before getting out, and when the weather is bad you might go to work and not get paid at all.

29 posted on 01/26/2016 5:21:48 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: dynoman

Remember also that Teddy Roosevelt saw through Margaret Sanger’s evil and wrote to her several times about population control.


30 posted on 01/26/2016 5:22:37 PM PST by Bushsupporter4life
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To: surroundedbyblue

I have asked this question continuously: Republican control of White House and Congress + conservative majority on the Supreme Court = Roe v. Wade still the law of the land. What the &*@% is up with that?


31 posted on 01/26/2016 5:22:37 PM PST by Nationale7
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To: presidio9

So what?

I’ve been bid-out, by high end union contractors, in state work, within process.

Before submits, and after.

Your idea of a worker is sublime, by comparative reality.


32 posted on 01/26/2016 5:30:40 PM PST by RedHeeler
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To: RedHeeler
Rationalize it any way you like. The fact remains that hundreds of illegal immigrants are working on Donald Trump's properties with his full knowledge and consent.

This is only the first example that comes to mind, but I do expect this to come up at some point in the campaign.

33 posted on 01/26/2016 5:36:25 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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1999:

RUSSERT: Partial-birth abortion — the eliminating of abortion in the third trimester. Big issue in Washington. Would President Trump ban partial-birth abortion?

TRUMP: Well, look. I’m very pro-choice. I hate the concept of abortion. I hate it, I hate everything it stands for. I cringe when I hear people debating the subject. But you still — I just believe in choice. And again, it may be a little bit of a New York background, because there is some different attitude in different parts of the country, and I was raised in New York, grew up and worked and everything else in New York City. But I am strongly for choice, and yet I hate the concept of abortion.

RUSSERT: But you would not ban it.

TRUMP: No.

RUSSERT: Or ban partial-birth abortion.

TRUMP: No, I would — I would — I am pro-choice in every respect, as far as it goes. I just hate it.


34 posted on 01/26/2016 5:39:20 PM PST by donna (Radicalized Christians become missionaries; then, they tell everyone that Jesus loves them!)
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To: presidio9

It that a fact?

Please present your facts- that “hundreds of illegal immigrants are working on Donald Trump’s properties with his full knowledge and consent.”

Go ahead break the story, that is seemingly unknown- anywhere, other than your post.

Thanks.


35 posted on 01/26/2016 5:44:02 PM PST by RedHeeler
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To: presidio9; All
Donald Trump's op-ed on abortion, published the day after the "March for Life" in 2016
36 posted on 01/26/2016 5:47:41 PM PST by SoFloFreeper (Obama hates the three Cs: Christianity, Constitution, and capitalism.)
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To: presidio9

NY values.

Either to lie or to turn 180 degrees.


37 posted on 01/26/2016 5:49:42 PM PST by doldrumsforgop
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To: presidio9

Trump isn’t a philosopher or much of a thinker. He doesn’t know who’s who among pro-lifers, and I’d bet he doesn’t know how abortion became legal, or that he has any plans to nullify the USSC’s decisions. I take hom at his word that he’s “pro-life,” but don’t expect any energy or creative thinking on the legal front.


38 posted on 01/26/2016 6:29:53 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: SoFloFreeper

Trump understands more than I have given him credit for.


39 posted on 01/26/2016 6:38:55 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: presidio9

It’s important not to forget that only a few weeks ago, Trump singularly upset the whole election apple cart!

Trump set the national agenda by opposing illegal immigration and bringing up other issues that the GOPe and their allies desperately wanted to avoid, and now they can’t.

The GOPe was not prepared for this, and as a consequence they don’t have a clue about what to do, hence their almost universal collapse into a pile of quivering jello, flip-flopping like a bag of Mexican jumping beans dumped on a hot griddle.

Trump has exposed those who pretend to be conservative but are really just fronts for big money establishment campaign donors who purchase their candidates with campaign “donations”.

Trump, by actually being a real man, has exposed the other candidates (Cruz excepting of course) and their allies for the weak little sniveling sellouts that they really are.

Trump’s vociferous truth-telling and fearless neutering of the kommie media have been the catalyst that triggered a massive revolt amongst conservative voters who are infuriated at the GOPe Congress doing absolutely ZERO to stop Obama’s agenda, and suddenly the GOP RINO leadership is in full blown panic mode and in full blown retreat, and the SMALL conservative House contingent smelt blood in the water, took heart, and charged in against a weakened, frightened and paralyzed GOPe leadership, and Boehner was taken out as a sacrificial lamb.

Trump is absolutely correct when he says that without Trump in the race, everything would be same-ol’, same-ol. The Joyful Tippy-Toes Turtle would be creeping closer to the finish line, Boehner would still be safely ensconced as Speaker, and there would be no mention of illegal immigration are any of the issues surrounding it by any politician in either party, other than possibly how critical it would be to pass immigration “reform”.

The media are loath to make the connection, but it’s obvious that the Boehner resignation was yet another falling domino, toppling due to the Trump Effect, because Trump’s unabashed truth-telling and fearless neutering of the kommie media triggered a revolt amongst the great unwashed GOP masses which emboldened a few conservative Congress critters to grow a few pairs.

And our nation wouldn’t even be having ANY of these conversations about illegal immigration and the myriad of other Obammunist issues destroying our country if it wasn’t for Trump. Instead, we’d simply be debating which RINO, GOPe squish would be least likely to be stomped by Hillary, and the GOPe would once again be exhorting the “base” about how critical it is for us to once again vote for the “lesser of two evils”, that is, vote for the GOPe side of the Uniparty coin.

And do note that ALL of the oligarchs and plutocrats are frightened to death of Donald Trump because the billionaires and millionaires can’t buy him like all of the other politicians they routinely purchase, because Trump doesn’t need nor want their money, and the kommie media is frightened to death of him because he isn’t afraid of them either, the bottom line being that Donald Trump can not be controlled by the rich and powerful or the corrupt media, so for anyone who is truly for campaign finance reform and wants to take money out of politics, voting for Trump is the only reasonable choice.

President Trump is really the last hope for this country: if he can’t undo any of the damage wrought by the Obammunists, the U.S.A. is done.

So least we forget, the above, and much more, are called “The Trump Effect”.


40 posted on 01/26/2016 6:48:16 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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