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The problem with Trump’s change of heart on abortion
RNS News ^ | January 26, 2016 | Trevin Wax

Posted on 01/26/2016 4:35:43 PM PST by presidio9

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1 posted on 01/26/2016 4:35:43 PM PST by presidio9
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To: presidio9

Tag line.


2 posted on 01/26/2016 4:36:18 PM PST by BobL (Who cares? He's going to build a wall and stop this invasion.)
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To: BobL

? Do you have any proof he’s going to build a wall? The man who says things, and says the opposite all the time? The man who never follows through on any of the stuff he spouts?


3 posted on 01/26/2016 4:38:38 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: BobL
Who cares? He's going to build a wall and stop this invasion.)

Both of Trump's main challengers have also promised a wall.

Both are committed to ending the apocalypse of innocents that is has claimed 58,000,000 lives in this country since Roe V Wade.

4 posted on 01/26/2016 4:39:58 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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Why is changing your mind form pro-choice to pro-life a problem??

Wow some of these critics are stupid.


5 posted on 01/26/2016 4:42:59 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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On a Howard Stern show back in 2003 Trump indicated he wanted to abort his second daughter, Tiffany, after his mistress at the time, Marla Maples, got pregnant.

He told Howard Stern he said to Maples they had to “do something about it”. Luckily for Tiffany, Maples didn’t want to. They got married after the baby was born.


6 posted on 01/26/2016 4:43:06 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: presidio9

Bingo!


7 posted on 01/26/2016 4:44:16 PM PST by don-o (Where did my tagline go?)
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To: BobL

Are you still ready for an Emperor?


8 posted on 01/26/2016 4:45:07 PM PST by don-o (Where did my tagline go?)
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To: presidio9

Obola won the Nobel Peace Prize by TALKING about Peace. Now, Trump will win the Presidency by TALKING about the Wall.

Talk is cheap.


9 posted on 01/26/2016 4:45:37 PM PST by sagar (Trump - character flaw + conservatism = Cruz)
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To: presidio9

“Since the 1990s, abortion has become one of the starkest and most consistent lines of demarcation between Democrats and Republicans. “

Says who? Republicans controlled the White House as well as the Congress from 2002 until 2006. What the hell did they accomplish in the fight against abortion? Lip service seems to be about all these people are capable of.


10 posted on 01/26/2016 4:46:12 PM PST by surroundedbyblue (Proud to be an Infidel)
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To: nickcarraway

The man who never follows through on any of the stuff he spouts?
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Give him a break ,, he’s not president yet... When he is he has the 1986 law on the books where the wall is required to be built... and he has plenty of fat in the executive branch to fund it by re-allocating $$$$ even if it isn’t in the budget.

As to his “conversion” ,,, I am like the writer unconvinced ... but I’ll take a chance on him rather than allow Hillary to win. All he needs to do is sign a personhood bill or appoint constitutionalist judges.


11 posted on 01/26/2016 4:49:40 PM PST by Neidermeyer (Bill Clinton is a 5 star general in the WAR ON WOMEN and Hillary is his Goebbels.)
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You don’t care that nascent human beings are being slaughtered and their lifeless corpses sold by an evil disgusting organization that is using our tax dollars to do these horrifying things? That’s a disgusting viewpoint to have.


12 posted on 01/26/2016 4:49:47 PM PST by Politicalkiddo ("May God save the country, for it is obvious the people will not."- Millard Fillmore)
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To: presidio9
Good read.

Thanks for posting.

Right now it sure looks like Trump is going to get the nomination. We will know in a couple months. I'm staying with Cruz. I know who he was, I know who he is, and I know who he will be.

13 posted on 01/26/2016 4:51:27 PM PST by wmfights (a stranger in a hostile and foreign land that used to be my home)
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To: don-o

Tag line.


14 posted on 01/26/2016 4:51:53 PM PST by BobL (Who cares? He's going to build a wall and stop this invasion.)
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To: Politicalkiddo
You don't care that nascent human beings are being slaughtered and their lifeless corpses sold by an evil disgusting organization that is using our tax dollars to do these horrifying things? That's a disgusting viewpoint to have.

You don't care if Hillary isn't defeated? That's a disgusting viewpoint to have.

15 posted on 01/26/2016 4:52:44 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Neidermeyer
All he needs to do is sign a personhood bill or appoint constitutionalist judges.

Hey, who knows maybe Obama will do that as well. There is about as much chance.

16 posted on 01/26/2016 4:52:45 PM PST by nickcarraway
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“Do you have any proof he’s going to build a wall?”

They ALL lie, and they ALL have checkered pasts on immigration (at best). I’ll go with the one that’s saying what I want to hear, and saying it the strongest.


17 posted on 01/26/2016 4:53:13 PM PST by BobL (Who cares? He's going to build a wall and stop this invasion.)
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In 2000, Trump is on record being against partial birth abortions, so he started evolving a long time ago.

You're right that his reasons are weak. It should be that life begins at conception and we don't have the authority from our Creator to abort life because it's inconvenient. He is getting closer though as this editorial by Trump on the culture of life reveals.

But there is little he can do as President to stop abortions. He has already promised to cut off funding from Planned Parenthood until they stop abortions. He has already said that abortions shouldn't be funded by tax payer money in violation of the consciences of the tax payers. So I think Trump will do what he can as President to limit abortions and federal funding of abortions.

We need Congress to step up. Until we elect an anti-abortion congress, it's not really a major issue in electing a President.

We need Trump for reasons other than abortion, like the economy and trade negotiations. Cruz is better on abortions, but Cruz is almost a single issue candidate. Trump will probably do everything Cruz can do on abortions and possibly more, since Trump thinks outside the box more than most.

18 posted on 01/26/2016 4:53:39 PM PST by DannyTN
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“Both of Trump’s main challengers have also promised a wall.”

Only AFTER seeing Trump succeed by promising, and it’s OBVIOUS that they don’t have their hearts in it.

Not at all, particularly after the GOPe get off the phone with them threatening to withhold their money.


19 posted on 01/26/2016 4:55:05 PM PST by BobL (Who cares? He's going to build a wall and stop this invasion.)
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News flash: the next President will have approximately zero influence on whether abortion remains legal in this country, whatever his personal convictions might be.

And, yes, I'm aware of the issue of judicial nominees. Don't forget that Supreme Court nominees must go through a Senate confirmation process.

The bottom line is, abortion, at least in some form, is very likely to remain legal in the US, although there may be a trend of more restrictions being placed on it in the future.

At the core of the issue, however, a mother's right to life will always be able to trump that of the fetus.

Thus, even if abortion were to remain legal only in cases where the mother's life is deemed to be at risk, the arbitrary nature of that determination will effectively amount to a loophole that one could drive a truck through.

What I'm saying is that Trump's stance on abortion, and indeed Cruz's, will not make much difference in the long run.

I think we can agree that there will always be exceptions which will allow the procedure to take place, and those exceptions will be sufficient for the procedure, which does take a life, to remain legal for any woman who opts for it.

I think that the real progress to be made against the appalling number of abortions in this country lies in educating women against choosing that option, combined with a stigmatization of abortion by society in general.

Just because something is legal doesn't mean that there's not a stigma attached to it.

20 posted on 01/26/2016 4:56:06 PM PST by sargon
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