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Hymn Stirs Controversy After Allah Switch
The Local ^ | 26 Jan 2016

Posted on 01/26/2016 1:43:51 PM PST by nickcarraway

An Austrian parent has complained after his daughter was given an altered version of a popular children's hymn in which the word 'God' was replaced with the word 'Allah'.

The woman told local media she was shocked when her daughter came home with the text to learn from the school in the Upper Austrian town of Wels.

The original song "Gottes Liebe ist so wunderbar" which means "God's love is so wonderful" is an extremely popular song for young children in Christian Austria. However, the teacher had decided to rewrite the text, replacing the word God with the word Allah.

The teacher justified the action by saying that the majority of children in the class of 10-year-olds were Muslims, and therefore she had changed the text by hand and replaced the word God with the word Allah.

But the parent of the girl as well as other Christian parents were not happy about the decision, and complained to the school inspector.

The annoyed father of the girl was quoted as saying: "It isn't just about the use of the word Allah. You just can't go about rewriting text like this."

School inspector Karin Lang said that she had requested an interview with the teacher and the school headmaster, and said that the teacher had only wanted to give the Muslim version to the Muslim schoolchildren. She said that one of the children must have accidentally been given the wrong music sheet."

Headmistress Ulrike Fellinger added: "I did not realise that the teacher was planning this. Songs like this in future have no place outside of the religious class."

A year ago an Egyptian man who moved into a house in Grossenzersdorf in Lower Austria had chopped down a crucifix that had been in his neighbour’s garden for 60 years because he found it offensive.

The Muslim had only just moved into the house when he announced that he did not like the crucifix, and told his neighbour that it had to go.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Germany
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To: MHT
The Muslims do not see Allah as merely the "Moon God." They affirm:

"Allah (God) is the Creator of everything. He is the guardian over everything. Unto Him belong the keys of the heavens and the earth." (Quran 39:62, 63).

They got the word "Allah" from the Arabic-speaking pagans AND Christians. Arabic was spoken at Pentecost, a watershed event in church history (Acts 2:8-11).

21 posted on 01/26/2016 2:34:20 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("God bless the child that's got his own." -- Billie Holiday)
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To: Mike Darancette

“I see no evidence that Allah loves its votaries.”

I have never seen any. Would someone point out any verses in the Satanic Verses (AKA Koran) that mentions Allah’s love or forgiveness of sinners?


22 posted on 01/26/2016 2:39:06 PM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

“In the OT, God has no Son. And he is consistently said to be “One” -—”

I notice that Genesis 1:26 in the King James Version reads in part: “And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness”

God is speaking in the plural, “us” and “our”. Who do you suppose He is speaking to?


23 posted on 01/26/2016 2:48:08 PM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: TexasRepublic; Mrs. Don-o
"God is speaking in the plural, “us” and “our”. Who do you suppose He is speaking to?"

Not meaning to butt in, but Queen Victoria also said, "We are not amused," and I don't think she was referring to Prince Albert ...

[smile]

24 posted on 01/26/2016 2:50:30 PM PST by BlueLancer (Once is happenstance. Twice is circumstance. Three times is enemy action.)
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To: TexasRepublic

Well, I believe He is referring to the Trinity. But then, I am a Christian, and I am relying on NT texts for comparison and interpretive input. Ask any Jews if they think He is referring to the Trinity.


25 posted on 01/26/2016 3:00:47 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (In the Divine Image God created Mankind: Male and Female created He them.)
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To: BlueLancer

This suggests an interesting question: does the Hebrew language use a royal or rhetorical plural (as in “We are not amused”?)


26 posted on 01/26/2016 3:03:38 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (In the Divine Image He created him: Male and Female He created them.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

A very good question - I’d like to know how the original Hebrew reads.


27 posted on 01/26/2016 3:32:45 PM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: nickcarraway
I have a more truthful song. It goes like this...

"Allah ist ein Arschloch
und Tanz mit dem Teufel

"Seine Anhanger sind bose,
und ihre Hande sind blutig

Allah ist ein Morder,
und Vergewaltigungen der Welt

Allah ist der Teufel,
und Tanze mit sich selbst!

Jesus wird ihn besiegen,
und Jesus wird siegen!

Jesus wird ihn zu zerschlagen,
unter Seinen Fussen!"


28 posted on 01/26/2016 4:08:28 PM PST by Gritty (Syrians aren't Jews fleeing Nazi Holocaust but Nazis relocating from a bombed out Berlin-DGreenfield)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I love the timelessness of God, His Son and his Spirit.


29 posted on 01/26/2016 4:12:55 PM PST by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: Delta 21

Amen.


30 posted on 01/26/2016 4:26:36 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Blessed Mary: "Behold, the handmaid of the Lord." - "Do whatever He tells you.")
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To: Lera; Old Sarge; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; freeangel; kalee; TWhiteBear; Salvation; ...

-Except death and destruction.

.

Europe has invited it's own demise.

Check out article, then read the latest short story by freeper Travis McGee:

The Alienork Way

https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2016/01/18/bracken-the-alienork-way/

31 posted on 01/26/2016 5:55:16 PM PST by LucyT
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To: LucyT

It’s brilliant .


32 posted on 01/26/2016 6:12:59 PM PST by Lera (1 Corinthians 15:3-4)
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To: Captainpaintball

[[This sh-t is not necessarily to convert, but to dissuade those on the fence-especially the younger ones-from being Christian, and to turn them off of religion completely.]]

It’s to cause confusion and gain sympathy.


33 posted on 01/26/2016 6:14:41 PM PST by Lera (1 Corinthians 15:3-4)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
What are the seven spirits of God?
The "seven spirits of God" are mentioned in Revelation 1:4; 3:1; 4:5; and 5:6. A third possibility is based on Isaiah 11:2, which says, "The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him - the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of counsel and of power, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD." This could possibly explain the seven spirits of God: (1) Spirit of the LORD, (2) Spirit of wisdom, (3) Spirit of understanding, (4) Spirit of counsel, (5) Spirit of power, (6) Spirit of knowledge, (7) Spirit of the fear of the Lord. The Bible doesn't tell us specifically who/what the seven spirits are, but the first interpretation, that they are the Holy Spirit, seems the most likely.
Isaiah 11
1 A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse; from his roots a Branch will bear fruit.
2 The Spirit of the Lord will rest on him-
the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding,
the Spirit of counsel and of might,
the Spirit of the knowledge and fear of the Lord-
3 and he will delight in the fear of the Lord.
34 posted on 01/26/2016 6:34:40 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamiin Franklin)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

God is pleural throughout the Old Testament In addition the pleural for God is used in the very verse you quote God does not change


35 posted on 01/26/2016 6:38:16 PM PST by Mom MD
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To: Mom MD
I have read some Latter Day Saints tracts which use the plurality of the words Elohim (used 2500 times in the OT, always plural) and Adonai (used 300 times in the OT, always plural) as evidence of plural gods --- polytheism --- as is taught by the LDS.

I seemed strange to me, though, that something so evident to the LDS, a church founded less than 200 years ago by English-speaking Americans, was not evident at all to the Jews, many of whom are Hebrew-speakers, and who have had these Scriptures and studied them exhaustively for 3000+ years.

Not being an expert myself, I thought that if I were to look for an expert in the meaning of Jewish Scriptures, I would probably find that expert not among the LDS, but among the Jews.

And they are resolutely monotheists. As I understand it.

36 posted on 01/26/2016 7:23:04 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Everyone is ignorant, only on different subjects." - Will Rogers)
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To: philman_36

In your view, how do the “Seven Spirits of God” relate to “The Trinity”?


37 posted on 01/26/2016 7:25:57 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Everyone is ignorant, only on different subjects." - Will Rogers)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

The word for one in the Shema was echad it is also the same word use to describe a marriage between a man and a woman so it is not quite so singular as you think it is when translating into English.

(Psalms 2:6) Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.

(Psalms 2:7) I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

(Proverbs 30:4) Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son’s name, if thou canst tell?

(1 John 5:7) For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.


38 posted on 01/26/2016 7:36:14 PM PST by Lera (1 Corinthians 15:3-4)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

My son in seminary has studied Hebrew extensively I have done some amateur studying The Jews missed a lot in their time including the first coming of Christ (I’m not condemning them we are no better now). Christ and the Trinity are all over the OT. The first Gospel message occurs in the first 3 chapters of Genesis Just because most of the Jews missed it does not mean it isn’t there God does not change


39 posted on 01/26/2016 7:57:10 PM PST by Mom MD
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To: Mrs. Don-o
In your view, how do the "Seven Spirits of God" relate to "The Trinity"?

Ummmm...I just gave you the answer to that question, the key words being...will rest on him.

How do you not understand that?

40 posted on 01/27/2016 2:41:48 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamiin Franklin)
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