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Is There Enough Evidence to Indict Hillary Clinton?
Townhall.com ^ | January 25, 2016 | Guy Benson

Posted on 01/25/2016 11:44:48 AM PST by Kaslin

As both Ed and Katie noted this morning, the New York Post is reporting that the Federal Bureau of Investigation's ongoing, expanded probe into Hillary Clinton's potential crimes has turned to the question of how extremely sensitive classified information "migrated" from secure government servers to Hillary's improper, unsecure private server. This prohibited crossover is "specifically forbidden," according to a former CIA official who recently weighed in on the controversy, who added that there is "zero ambiguity" on this point. At this point, we know that federal investigators are looking into habitual, serious mishandling of classified information -- including intelligence that rose to the levels of secret, top secret and 'beyond top secret' (SAP). One by one, Hillary and her allies have erected excuses for her willfulnational security-endangering scheme; one by one, those excuses have crashed and burned under scrutiny. We also know that the feds are exploring whether Team Hillary obstructed justice to cover up her conduct, and whether she violated anti-corruption laws in her capacity at the State Department. Those 30,000-plus "personal" emails she unilaterally ordered deleted may come into play on those fronts. The FBI has reportedly recovered the contents of those messages, several of which have already been exposed as work-related. But where does all of this lead, from a legal perspective? Katie touched on it in her piece, but it's worth taking a closer look at analysis from former federal judge and US Attorney General Michael Mukasey, who penned a compelling op/ed in the Wall Street Journal over the weekend.  He makes the case that based on publicly-known details alone, criminal charges are in order:

Whatever the findings from that part of the probe, intelligence-community investigators believe it is nearly certain that Mrs. Clinton's server was hacked, possibly by the Chinese or the Russians...from her direction that classification rules be disregarded, to the presence on her personal email server of information at the highest level of classification, to her repeated falsehoods of a sort that juries are told every day may be treated as evidence of guilty knowledge—it is nearly impossible to draw any conclusion other than that she knew enough to support a conviction at the least for mishandling classified information. This is the same charge brought against Gen. David Petraeus for disclosing classified information in his personal notebooks to his biographer and mistress, who was herself an Army Reserve military intelligence officer cleared to see top secret information. The simple proposition that everyone is equal before the law suggests that Mrs. Clinton's state of mind—whether mere knowledge of what she was doing as to mishandling classified information; or gross negligence in the case of the mishandling of information relating to national defense; or bad intent as to actual or attempted destruction of email messages; or corrupt intent as to State Department business—justifies a criminal charge of one sort or another.

Read the whole thing. But what to make of the Clinton campaign's oft-repeated refrain that according to the FBI, Hillary isn't "a subject of the investigation"? Former federal prosecutor Andy McCarthy explains how that "legal term of art" may -- or may not -- apply to the situation at hand, suggesting that this characterization represents a carefully-phrased technicality within the context of a politically-loaded case:

"Subject" is a term of art in criminal investigations. It refers to one of the three categories into which prosecutors fit every relevant actor. Subjects are people whose conduct is being scrutinized and who, depending on what evidence turns up, may or may not be charged. This distinguishes them from targets, who are suspects virtually certain to be indicted for an obvious crime; and from mere witnesses, whose interaction with a suspect suggests no criminality on their part (e.g., the teller in a bank hold-up, or the neighbor awakened by a fatal gunshot next door)..."Subject" is the ambiguous category. A subject has engaged in conduct that appears criminal but may have an innocent explanation. Cooperating makes sense if the subject's account is likely to convince the government not to file charges. If not, cooperation is fraught with risk, and a competent lawyer will probably advise against it. If someone's conduct is being investigated for potential wrongdoing, it is safe to assume that person is a subject of that investigation. Thus understood, Mrs. Clinton is not only a subject; she is the main subject. After all, the investigation centers on her mishandling of classified information via a private e-mail system that she improperly set up for all her government business and over which she well knew it was illegal to disseminate classified information. And if recent reporting is accurate, the investigation is now delving into potential corruption: the favorable treatment donors to her private foundation were given by the State Department she was running. Given that the investigation appears to be tracking her unique activities, how could she possibly not be a subject? What would otherwise be the point of investigating?

McCarthy proceeds to attempt to answer that question, laying out why Clintonworld can still get away with the "not a subject" line -- for now.  He says "targets" and "subjects" are targets and subjects of grand jury investigations, and that no matter how intensive the criminal inquiry may be, the FBI itself cannot convene a grand jury on its own. Prosecutors are needed for that part of the process to swing into motion. "No Justice Department, no grand jury. No grand jury, no case — period," he writes, arguing that a tenuous, temporary compromise scenario is currently playing out:

On the one hand, the Obama administration does not want to be seen by the public as obstructing the FBI; on the other hand, President Obama does not want to be seen by his base as tanking the Democrats' best shot at retaining the White House — the likely fallout if the Obama Justice Department signals that a formal, very serious criminal investigation is underway. So Obama is hedging his bets. He is letting the FBI investigate, but on its own, without Justice Department prosecutors and the grand jury. This frees the administration and the Clinton campaign to be, by turns, ambiguous and disingenuous about whether there really is a formal investigation going on.

This can't last forever, McCarthy contends. Ultimately, if the FBI gathers sufficient evidence, dominoes will begin to fall -- and if those dominoes are being propped up for political reasons, the American people will hear all about it. His conclusion, drawing on his professional relationship with FBI Director James Comey: "Besides working under administrations of both parties, he has overseen prosecutions of both Republicans and Democrats. I've known no one in law enforcement more capable of navigating through a political maelstrom. Jim is tough, he is smart, and if there is a case to be made here, he will make it. And if he makes it, it will be bulletproof. Of course, making the case would not mean the FBI could force attorney general Loretta Lynch — and the president to whom she answers — to pursue the case. The FBI cannot convene a grand jury and present an indictment. But you'd best believe the FBI can make the Obama administration look very bad if it shrinks from doing so."  And then, there's the separate but highly relevant matter of the court of public opinion. The Clinton campaign isn't doing itself any favors kicking up a dust storm of spin and blame, but they have few other options:

Jake Tapper mocks Hillary Clinton spokesman for using 'facts not in evidence' to defend Hillary
Focusing on the question of who leaked the damning evidence outlined in a letter to Congress by the intelligence community Inspector General is a lame attempt to distract from...the damning evidence outlined in a letter to Congress by the intelligence community Inspector General. How journalists got their hands on the documents isn't the story here, and it it never will be.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: andymccarthy; classifiedemails; hillarycriminalprobe; sap
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To: Kaslin

Something else that needs to be clearly explained to the American people: When Hillary Clinton says that she “never sent or received information marked “Classified” while she was Secretary of State, she’s playing word games. She’s choosing her words very carefully. There is no distinct category of secure information called “Classified” (except in the movies or on TV.) It’s a generic term that encompasses information marked as “Confidential”, “Secret”, “Top Secret”, etc. Most people do not realize this, and therefore are more inclined to give her the benefit of the doubt when they here her make that statement. This is her version of “it depends on what the definition of the word “is” is.”


21 posted on 01/25/2016 1:34:08 PM PST by GreenHornet
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To: Kaslin

while the focus is on damaging evidence contained in various e mails, in addition to spending time in cubicles analyzing them, agents can go into the field and question witnesses. These would be those that know of the day to day office procedure of both at Hillary’s right hand and those perhaps at some distance

If witnesses become targets then there will be offers for testimony that dare not be refused. After all, 2017 is right around the corner and guilty is guilty. within the state department there are probably an endless list og folks that actually have some knowledge of the lawless scandal that reflects poorly and even very badly on them personally.

The emails have revealed enough for even the lowest of the low secretaries to be questioned. Fear will permeate their being. The truth will out in all its horror. The whole State Department is in a state of disgrace

Obama can’t pardon one that is not convicted while he is in office


22 posted on 01/25/2016 1:49:22 PM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump.)
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To: Kaslin

There’s probably dump trucks - a convoy of semis full of evidence against her. Will it ever see the light of day? Not in this corrupt administration.


23 posted on 01/25/2016 1:55:32 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: Kaslin
The FBI cannot convene a grand jury and present an indictment. But you'd best believe the FBI can make the Obama administration look very bad if it shrinks from doing so." And then, there's the separate but highly relevant matter of the court of public opinion.

Let the sun shine in - do what is right.

24 posted on 01/25/2016 1:56:00 PM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro

To answer the question...does a bear...?


25 posted on 01/25/2016 2:29:59 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: hal ogen

AG will not convene Grand Jury. Thus no indictment. Thus no conviction.

OTOH, there’s still the concept of Citizens’ Arrest, Kangaroo Court, Telegraph Pole. All over and done before the authorities realize what’s happening.


26 posted on 01/25/2016 2:50:05 PM PST by Boojum
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To: Kaslin

“I hope they do, (prosecute Hillary) but most of the press will probably ignore it though.”

I seriously have my doubts...her name is clinton, she’s a democrat, and a women which does not bode well for any prosecuting no matter how much evidence there is. JMHO.


27 posted on 01/25/2016 3:27:31 PM PST by kagnew
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To: kagnew

Remember when slick willy got himself in trouble? The party’s media went after Ken Star while ignoring the charges against slick. IF this case moves forward, I would expect the media to attack the prosecutors and defend the hildabeast.


28 posted on 01/26/2016 4:46:34 AM PST by Texas resident (The democrat party will destroy our country and they think it won't affect them.)
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“Remember when slick willy got himself in trouble? The party’s media went after Ken Star while ignoring the charges against slick. IF this case moves forward, I would expect the media to attack the prosecutors and defend the hildabeast.”

You are probably right, but I wonder what will happen if there is mass resignations from the FBI for failure to indict??? I do know one thing, every gutless republican who voted for Lynch’s confirmation should be drummed out of congress. Anyone with an IQ of 10 could figure on Lynch doing Obama’s bidding.


29 posted on 01/26/2016 5:58:59 AM PST by kagnew
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To: kagnew

And back in the day, Hillary had hundreds of FBI files on key people in DC. Fast forward to today, I would bet she has a LOT more dirt on lots more people. And those who have been there long enough remember what happened to Vince Foster. How did that investigation go?


30 posted on 01/26/2016 6:03:36 AM PST by Texas resident (The democrat party will destroy our country and they think it won't affect them.)
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To: kagnew

I would argue there is more to this than the lame duck and Hillary. There are communications channels beyond those within the White House or the MSM. There can be direct talks with the AG outside the White House com channels

There is some semblance of life beyond the lame duck and the aging swan to be considered. If real, that life would require looking down the road rather than just down the block.

When calculating damages and risk, it is possible that the damage of a Hillary to the Party is far greater than the risks associated with throwing her under the bulldozer.

Lynch is black. She is the creation of the party. Her base loyalty is to the black establishment and the party not to the black man in the White House. If loyalty is the active force rather than the law, Hillary might get Lynched


31 posted on 01/26/2016 6:12:14 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump.)
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To: Kaslin

The continuing question is, “What was the information used for, who benefited, and what risk specifically did this use subject us to?” This is, perhaps, what would be the final nail in Hillary’s coffin as far as the general public is concerned.


32 posted on 01/26/2016 12:41:13 PM PST by JimSEA
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