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Obama’s Dirty Little Secret to Winning the 2012 Presidential Election
The Daily Beast ^ | 11.12.12 | Michael Medved

Posted on 01/24/2016 6:36:30 AM PST by 11th_VA

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To: subterfuge

Remember he even had a smaller venue for his speech; then later in the evening somehow when he was losing all these millions of votes started coming in. Yeah, they knew the number they needed to win and jammed in the fraudulent votes at last minute.

You all remember Romney’s 47 percent comment? That cost him lot of votes.


21 posted on 01/24/2016 7:55:21 AM PST by Engedi
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To: 11th_VA
Over the years, I have witnessed the rats become expert in driving wedges between various republican factions, in successful efforts to manipulate turnout.

In Ca, they have taken control of every lever of power in this state, and do as they please. The Gov just took great pride in the fact that this state will now provide free healthcare to children of illegals, and the entire chamber applauded.

Meanwhile, various republican tribes are still sniping at each other, resulting in permanent minority status.

Zero merely did this on a national level, and it worked. His ads were not aimed at his supporters, they were aimed at republicans, to dampen turnout.

22 posted on 01/24/2016 8:06:51 AM PST by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: 11th_VA

Disagree entirely.

RINOmney - liberal, wimpish, not a fighter, in a cult - discouraged many, who knew nothing else would change with him.

It is not the voters job to accept crap sandwiches.

It is the Republican Party’s job to understand their base. They failed.

RINOmney was not only a “base-failure”, discouraging the right.
He was the antithesis of everything the left hated, motivating them to get out and support their failed Zero.

Did they learn anything at GOPe headquarters?

Nah. They are opposing the two most popular candidates.


23 posted on 01/24/2016 8:07:10 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (As a representative of Earth, I officially welcome Global Warming to our planet)
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To: 11th_VA

FUD is a marketing tactic. Someone on FR brought it up the other day. It is Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt.

I have said that the religion of the left is Fear, Greed and Envy. Close to the same as FUD.

Suppressing the white vote was done by a version of FUD I suppose.


24 posted on 01/24/2016 8:14:19 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Exactly right. Romney even outperformed McCain in AZ!

No first term president ever won a second term by losing more popular and Electoral votes than they got in their first election. Obama was the first to do it. All other first term presidents who did that lost.

In other words, first term presidents either build on their original winning coalition and win a second term or don’t and lose....until Obama.


25 posted on 01/24/2016 8:18:48 AM PST by BridgeOutAhead (Obama.....dabit deus his quoque finem)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Well, that and expertly managed big city vote fraud in the battleground states that Republicans are to this day too scared to even name, let alone investigate and prosecute.

It has nothing to do with fear. The Republican Party is enjoined from bringing legal action against voter fraud as part of a consent decree. It's been posted goodness knows how many times on this site.

26 posted on 01/24/2016 8:20:54 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: going hot

You described that well; “divide & conquer” has been used very successfully by those who would “fundamentally transform” this country. If Trump just garners the support of English-speaking whites, he should be fine; Dems gather support along color/language lines, and Republicans should as well.


27 posted on 01/24/2016 8:27:40 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: 11th_VA

He won because a lot more people voted for him.


28 posted on 01/24/2016 8:28:14 AM PST by Ted Grant
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To: 11th_VA
114% of the electorate voted in one precinct !

100% in a swing state precinct voted for Obama.

GOP poll watchers locked out of a polling station till after voting had started with no chance to check that machines started at zero.

Sure hope Trump - or whoever is the nominee - is prepared for this kind of cheating.

29 posted on 01/24/2016 8:29:43 AM PST by Churchillspirit (9/11/2001 and 9/11/2012: NEVER FORGET.)
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To: kearnyirish2
Trump's draw is what he says He will do, on top of how bad the other guy's Shiite stinks.

What he says is what a majority of this country is clamoring for.

Dems have nothing better to campaign on, because there is nothing better, for this country.

All they have is to bring up ideas that hopefully will divide and dampen turnout.

It is really all they have left.

Their agents infiltrate this site, as well as every other site they can, specifically for this purpose.

30 posted on 01/24/2016 8:36:47 AM PST by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
" that and expertly managed big city vote fraud in the battleground states that Republicans are to this day too scared to even name, let alone investigate and prosecute"

Vote fraud is almost impossible to investigate and prosecute. For Democrats, that's the beauty of it. There are dozens of ways to steal votes, and unless you have an elaborate sting and surveillance system set up in advance, you will never be able to prove in court that the perp actually did the crime. Take the case of Mr. O'Keefe strolling into Eric Holder's precinct and successfully having the election judges proffer Holder's ballot. O'Keefe recorded the whole thing, but fearing prosecution, declined to actually vote the ballot. But suppose he did not record or publicize the event and did vote Holder's ballot. Put yourself in the shoes of an investigator: A week after the event the canvas shows an irregularity (and these happen all the time, in every election in America), but what actually happened? How would you get a case together against Mr. O'Keefe? You couldn't do it. All the other avenues of vote fraud are similarly beyond the reach of investigation. Mail-in ballots being a major issue. In 2014 I received 3 ballots at my house. I live alone. My wife had previously passed away, my daughter moved away. But They gave me their ballots. I could have voted them, how would they prove in court beyond a reasonable doubt that it was me that voted them? Similarly, the guy working for the Post Office is in a position to employ a dozen different vote-fraud strategies and deceptions, which no one could ever prove.

31 posted on 01/24/2016 8:38:39 AM PST by cookcounty ("I was a Democrat until I learned to count" --Maine Gov. Paul LePage)
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To: going hot

AS I heard a radio host (Michael Savage?) point out, until Trump brought it up the whole immigration debate was shelved - and Americans want that dealt with. We had simply been ignored by arrogant overlords that despise us.


32 posted on 01/24/2016 8:42:58 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: 11th_VA

Bookmark.


33 posted on 01/24/2016 8:46:12 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: 11th_VA

Romney pulled his punches against the first black President’s bid for recoronation. Unexpectedly he morphed into a tenacious fighter in the primaries against all Conservative opponents but sadly he turned into squishy moderate milquetoast loser against Obama.


34 posted on 01/24/2016 8:46:58 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Ciexyz

I held my nose for Romney but he still sucked.


35 posted on 01/24/2016 8:49:08 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: 11th_VA
Obama had a LOT of help from the Romney campaign. They're big, shiny voter turnout system imploded on election day:

Inside Orca: How the Romney Campaign Suppressed Its Own Vote
36 posted on 01/24/2016 8:50:32 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: kearnyirish2
It was worse than that.

If you will recall, we were constantly told that illegals were not illegal, they were undocumented, and that we must learn to accept more and more of them.

The problem was not with immigration, because if it is legal, it can be controlled, for the good of This country, adjusting the spigot from zero to whatever setting as the needs and conditions dictate.

Illegal immigration, more correctly, invasion by aliens, is simply walking away from the borders and allowing this country to be absorbed by the rest of the world, which is what progressives want all along, by invasion and destruction from within, including the overwhelming of the infrastructure at all levels.

37 posted on 01/24/2016 8:54:30 AM PST by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: gusopol3
"Romneycare took Obamacare off the table, though it was the biggest political story of the first Obama administration."

And Trump has successfully taken it off the table for 2016 with his effusive glorious praise for government-run health care in Canada and Great Britain.

I see Trump as a Progressive in the mold of Teddy Roosevelt. He wants to make big changes, re-formulate politics in America. If elected, he will do just that. But we won't like what we get. And with Trump, we will get government-run health care. And TrumpCare might be marginally better than ObamaCare, but I'm still going to oppose it.

38 posted on 01/24/2016 8:55:15 AM PST by cookcounty ("I was a Democrat until I learned to count" --Maine Gov. Paul LePage)
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To: 11th_VA

No one wanted to vote Rimney/Ryan. A group wanted to vote NO to Oboma. That’s not the same and peing negative something just doesn’t have the passion as Apositive something. Late in the day people went home after work because they just didn’t have the passion to do a positive action for a positive reason. The GOPe was hoping for the same thing for both sides with a Yeb vs Shillery in 2016. Apathy on both side might just get the next big GOPe win that the missed with Dole, Mcain, Romney and honestly Bush in 1992 and IMHO Bush in 2004. I think their was passion on both sides in 2000 but it became clear W was a globalist by 2004 election.


39 posted on 01/24/2016 9:17:56 AM PST by wgmalabama
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To: going hot

That’s right; the illegal immigration itself was something that was to be “normalized”. They can open bank accounts and receive drivers license, public assistance, free public education, and ObamaCare coverage.

We are subsidizing the invasion/destruction of our country.


40 posted on 01/24/2016 9:29:35 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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