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To: Smokin' Joe

The Kelo situation was a complete disaster. I was involved in helping Long Branch, NJ fight off waterfront developers. Those people were brave! (A lot of ED happens around waterfronts - rivers and the ocean.)

Out west, don’t people lose land if not their actual homes?


222 posted on 01/24/2016 12:49:50 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Turks (Muslims))
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To: miss marmelstein
There isn't much eminent domain out here, not counting what the Government pulls on people already close to Federal landholdings. There is too much room to be taking people's homes to put a road or pipeline through, rerouting is more feasible. The railroads already have their rights of way, so that isn't a problem either, for the most part.

Usually, hostile takeovers by the government or NGOs occur when government policy is used to deny water rights either for irrigation or livestock consumption.

In the former case, a lost crop or fallow year can literally force someone to sell the farm, and in the Klamath case, organizations like the Nature Conservancy (IIRC) were there to offer a whopping 20 cents on the dollar of the value of that land. That is more typical of the Public/Private partnership land grab. Regulation, limitation, fiscal exhaustion (in court and otherwise), sale of assets to cover expenses.

We have not had much of that here in this State, but in others it is a growing problem.

One notable attempt here was an attempt by environmental groups here in the '80s to create a 'wilderness area' from homestead go-back land (homesteads which failed and the land went back to the Government). The proposal was presented as a series of parcels in random order, but when those were drawn on a map, comprised a strip of land which would have ended access to a significant area of ranching, farming, and oil production. The only other way in would have been to ford the Little Missouri River, which might be okay for an occasional crossing, but would not have provided sustainable access.

The proposal was stopped by a coalition of farmers, stockmen, and oilfield people, along with other property owners.

On occasion we feel the push of big money from elsewhere with astroturf campaigns for or against something, and thankfully (so far) North Dakotans have been able to spot and stop most of that.

227 posted on 01/24/2016 1:25:39 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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