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Tone-deaf Trump touts eminent domain support
The Washington Examiner ^ | January 23, 2016 | Al Weaver

Posted on 01/23/2016 10:01:45 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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1 posted on 01/23/2016 10:01:45 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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2 posted on 01/23/2016 10:05:31 PM PST by Slyfox (Ted Cruz does not need the presidency - the presidency needs Ted Cruz)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“It’s got to be used wisely”.

And your point is?

Btw - that old woman’s house is still standing, so don’t bother. That one has been debunked quite handily.


3 posted on 01/23/2016 10:06:22 PM PST by datura (Proud Infidel)
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Tone deaf Trump is close to 50% nationally.


4 posted on 01/23/2016 10:06:29 PM PST by mbrfl
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If The Trump is for eminent domain, then eminent domain is the conservative position.

Get with the program.

What is good for The Trump is good for America.


5 posted on 01/23/2016 10:07:53 PM PST by P-Marlowe (Freepers. The enemy is on the left, not the right!)
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We are truly “through the looking glass” at this point


6 posted on 01/23/2016 10:10:36 PM PST by thestob (Cruz 2016)
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And here goes CW ... yet again!

Take a day off already, you are getting quite boring.

Do you really believe you are making any difference at all? The Cruzers will support Cruz so you are preaching to the choir. The Trump supporters laugh at you and think you have a severe case of TDS.

Not quite sure if it is sad or just embarrassing already, but leaning toward the latter.
7 posted on 01/23/2016 10:13:14 PM PST by softwarecreator
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8 posted on 01/23/2016 10:14:17 PM PST by datura (Proud Infidel)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

You lost already, its Over.


9 posted on 01/23/2016 10:14:21 PM PST by heights
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You are a particularly odious Trump supporter and a statist puke.


10 posted on 01/23/2016 10:15:34 PM PST by jwalsh07 (.w)
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Here is some information for those who quickly shout "Keystone." Trump's lawsuit to throw up a parking lot (for limos arriving and leaving his casino) is something he cannot bury.

Sept 29, 2015: Keystone XL developer drops landowner lawsuits in Nebraska

LINCOLN, Neb. - The developer of the Keystone XL pipeline is shifting course in Nebraska and will withdraw lawsuits seeking to gain access to the property of landowners who oppose the project, the company announced Tuesday.

TransCanada said it will abandon its current efforts to invoke eminent domain through the courts, and will reapply for state approval despite having received the go-ahead from former Republican Gov. Dave Heineman in 2013.

Heineman approved the project under a now-contested pipeline-siting law that granted him the final say over the project's route through Nebraska. TransCanada spokesman Mark Cooper said the company will instead seek a review from the Nebraska Public Service Commission - a small, elected group that regulates most pipeline projects - as many opponents have wanted.

Cooper said the company intends to seek approval for the same route that was approved by the governor, but reapplying through the commission provides "the clearest path to achieving route certainty," given the lawsuits that sought to overturn Nebraska's 3-year-old pipeline-siting law.

"It ultimately saves time, reduces conflict with those who oppose the project and sets clear rules for approval of the route," Cooper said.

Opponents argued in court that the law was invalid because it allowed TransCanada to circumvent the commission and receive approval from Heineman, who supported the pipeline. Under Nebraska's constitution, the commission has the authority to regulate "common carriers" such as pipelines and railroads.

The company and its supporters argued that the law is valid, and noted that the project was reviewed once by the Nebraska Department of Environmental Quality and five times by the U.S. State Department.

Pipeline opponents celebrated the announcement as a major victory, but still called on President Barack Obama to reject a presidential permit for the project. Federal approval is required because the project crosses the U.S.-Canadian border.

"TransCanada is a desperate company in an ever-losing situation in Nebraska," said Jane Kleeb, executive director of the group Bold Nebraska. "Farmers and ranchers continue to stand up this reckless foreign corporation and we continue to win."

The pipeline would travel from Canada through Montana and South Dakota to Nebraska, where it would connect with existing pipelines to carry more than 800,000 barrels of crude oil a day to refineries along the Texas Gulf Coast.

In January, the Nebraska Supreme Court allowed the pipeline-siting law to stand by default. Four judges on the seven-member court ruled in favor of landowners who challenged the law, but a super-majority of five was needed.

The remaining three judges refused to rule on the law, arguing that they couldn't because the plaintiffs in the lawsuit didn't have legal standing. Opponents responded by filing a nearly identical lawsuit with landowners who were directly affected.

Cooper said 91 percent of Nebraska landowners along the pipeline route have agreed to easements so the company can build the pipeline.

Cooper said TransCanada could apply to the Public Service Commission as early as Friday. Reviews by the commission generally take seven months to a year to complete, and its decisions can be appealed in the state's district court system.

Art Tanderup, a farmer and pipeline opponent whose land is on the proposed route, said he's confident the commission will not allow the pipeline to cross the Sandhills - a region of fragile, grass-covered sand dunes - or the Ogallala Aquifer, a major groundwater supply that lies beneath Nebraska and parts of seven other states. "This is a victory for landowners standing up to prevent a foreign corporation from taking their land for corporate greed through eminent domain," he said.

11 posted on 01/23/2016 10:15:55 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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Tone-deaf Senator Principled Conservative (TM) campaigns for and casts votes in support of Obama’s legacy trade agenda while pocketing $100,000 in donations from Goldman Sachs.


12 posted on 01/23/2016 10:15:57 PM PST by lodi90 (TRUMP Force 1 lifting off)
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All but a couple of FReepers were for the Keystone Pipeline.

It was a big deal that Obama had blocked it. We called him all sorts of names. I thought he was an idiot. I thought most folks agreed with me.

An then a funny thing happened on the way to the Keystone pipeline.

All of a sudden, many FReepers went ape-s##t on the issue of eminent domain.

Now none of them want Keystone.

What a hoot.

Keystone needs to use private eminent domain just like Trump did. Sorry Keystone, Trump was the kiss of death to you.

All hail the lynching of Trump.


13 posted on 01/23/2016 10:15:58 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Free Republic Caucus: vote daily / watch for the thread / Starts 01/20 midnight to midnight EDST)
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"Where else is eminent domain used? For pipelines. All of these [GOP 2016 candidates] are in favor of the Keystone pipeline," Trump said. "You couldn't build five feet of the Keystone pipeline without eminent domain. It's going through people's farms, it's going through people's houses."

While eminent domain can, in some cases, be used to get pipeline right-of-way, most of it is simply leased from the property owner in a straight-up deal. It is not only quicker for the pipeline company to acquire the right-of-way for a pipeline that way, it is a lot cheaper, too. (Imagine if you had to have a separate court case for every five feet of pipeline).

There is a legal setback from occupied structures for any pipeline, at least in this state (ND), and laws preventing the location of any permanent structure over an existing pipeline.

If those laws are not present in your State, I would suggest them.

Pipelines go through farms, certainly, well below plow depth, marked, and after the right-of-way has been leased. Compensation for crops not produced on that land due to construction is written into the lease deal, as are locations for any monitoring equipment, valves, and surface equipment needed and specifications for those additional features as well. Pipelines don't go through houses (out west, anyway). That's hyperbole at best.

14 posted on 01/23/2016 10:16:18 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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Where else is eminent domain used?

Apparently to try to take away someone's home to build a limousine parking lot.

15 posted on 01/23/2016 10:16:35 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: heights

And who won? The corporatists that use the state to steal property?


16 posted on 01/23/2016 10:17:05 PM PST by jwalsh07 (.w)
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To: mbrfl

so was Obama what is your point ?


17 posted on 01/23/2016 10:17:19 PM PST by Bidimus1
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Is that true? Nope. However, it was true that FReepers did oppose eminent domain abuse and in particular the outrageous Kelo v. New London CT Supreme Court ruling. After Trump, however, people like you support big government power - across the board.


18 posted on 01/23/2016 10:19:10 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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All hail the lynching of Trump.

Awwww... Doughty, we have had a Cruz lynching for the last 6 months, you included.

19 posted on 01/23/2016 10:19:22 PM PST by Moorings
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Did anybody care about eminent domain during WW2? Of course not.

We’ve got an invasion and out of control corportist beltway culture trying to ram down a 5,000 page crony capitalist NAFTA on steroids trade bill. Eminent domain is down there with ethanol as least important issues of this campaign.

Team Cruz really knows how to pick the loser issues to focus on. Maybe that’s why Trump is at 40% and Cruz is at 10%.


20 posted on 01/23/2016 10:19:54 PM PST by lodi90 (TRUMP Force 1 lifting off)
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