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Study: Maybe we can’t find aliens because they’ve all died already
washingtonpost.com ^ | January 22 at 12:27 PM | Rachel Feltman

Posted on 01/22/2016 12:32:08 PM PST by Trumpinator

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To: ChessExpert
Re>The intelligent design position is that our good fortune is not fortune at all, but God’s great design.

If there was other intelligent life out there....would they not have the same creator / God. I do struggle with this question. I think YES but it does seem to go against some of the Bible. The Bible itself is against it but talks of it also like it exists.

41 posted on 01/22/2016 1:08:51 PM PST by IC Ken
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To: PCPOET7

And those holes they go in and out of are on both sides of the US border, not in the mountains!


42 posted on 01/22/2016 1:12:20 PM PST by ichabod1 (Spriiingtime for islam, and tyranny. Winter for US and frieeends. . .)
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To: Trumpinator

Global warming killed them all!


43 posted on 01/22/2016 1:12:44 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jarhead9297
The light and radio we are now receiving from "out there" is really old. We are learning about those planets from the time our planet was an uninhabited void. So, it is foolish to make the sort of proposals found in the article.

Besides, there is good evidence that we are being visited right now.

44 posted on 01/22/2016 1:13:22 PM PST by GingisK
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To: Tenacious 1

Even if there was a predictable, smooth path to intelligent life, given the right conditions (where the conditions were fairly rare), let’s do this thought experiment:

Let’s say there are 100 civilizations RIGHT NOW in the Milky Way that our at our CURRENT level of technology. Let’s further say that they are more or less evenly distributed throughout the Galaxy.

We have been transmitting modulated radio signals for about 100 years (give or take, I won’t quibble, just using a round figure).

That means that there is a 100 light year radius “bubble” around our solar system where Earth’s transmissions can be detected.

Similarly, the other 99 civilizations too have roughly 100 light year radius bubbles around them.

Evenly distributed, these bubbles would be THOUSANDS of light years apart, keeping all 100 civilizations from knowing about each other’s existence for long, long stretches of time, probably longer than the civilizations could survive.


45 posted on 01/22/2016 1:13:47 PM PST by Rebel_Ace (HITLER! There, Zero to Godwin in 5.2 seconds.)
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To: IC Ken

And that is only looking back 5000 years or so. What the ancients knew that we do not - mostly stuff we don’t want to know they knew, else the lie that life & progress is linear will evaporate.

Many ancient site have bits of glass in oval or round shapes - these are either discarded or classified as jewelry, but closer inspection reveals they are ground in plus or minus diopters or in other words they are lenses — something that is not permitted to exist until Galileo in the 16th century.

Many other bits of ancient knowledge disappeared when Julius Caesar accidentally fired the Library at Alexandria in 48 BC; a huge whopping amount was destroyed by the Islamic Varsity under Mohammad from 628-728 AD; and still more during the time of Girolamo Savonarola, 1452-1498 who loved to burn books.

Ancient knowledge which is ‘unexplained’ is just knowledge whose sources have been destroyed over the past 2000 years. Or knowledge that is not a product of modern, linear, logical, and reasoned thinking. Egyptian who lived during the Old Kingdom in Egypt thought symbolically - something that is nearly impossible for us today - a system of thought which is capable of producing things we have no basis to understand: the Giza complex as a unit, not separate ‘tombs’ for instance.

Now imagine some other race of beings on a planet within the habitable zone of a red dwarf sun - how do they think and what are the products of that thought - unimaginable.


46 posted on 01/22/2016 1:17:57 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Rebel_Ace

Before Mars lost its atmosphere many say it could have supported life.


47 posted on 01/22/2016 1:18:15 PM PST by IC Ken
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To: GingisK

Oh no I believe we have and info withheld. I just find this Paradox intellectually stimulating


48 posted on 01/22/2016 1:21:07 PM PST by Jarhead9297
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To: Trumpinator

We’ve only really been looking for fifty years and
we’re extremely near sighted to begin with.

The universe is a big place and we’re the only
ones in it?


49 posted on 01/22/2016 1:21:56 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: PIF

Life is strange. I was at opening day for the Greenbank telescope and the night before when they turned it on they found a Quasar. They put it on the speaker system for all to hear. I wasn’t prepared for what I heard. It sounded like a heartbeat thru a stethoscope.


50 posted on 01/22/2016 1:23:26 PM PST by IC Ken
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"Before Mars lost its atmosphere many say it could have supported life."

That is a point in favor of the tack the article is taking. So, let's say Mars was warm and inviting 3 billion years ago. There was no one on Earth to take note of it. Now Earth is full of life, and there is no one on Mars to see.
51 posted on 01/22/2016 1:26:28 PM PST by Rebel_Ace (HITLER! There, Zero to Godwin in 5.2 seconds.)
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Maybe we can't find aliens because they've all died already

52 posted on 01/22/2016 1:30:44 PM PST by LucyT
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To: Trumpinator

The comPost...

It’ll take almost 100,000 years to wait for radio signals from just our galaxy. We’ve been using radio for less than 100.


53 posted on 01/22/2016 1:39:25 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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56 posted on 01/22/2016 1:47:46 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Trumpinator

Dark age wasn’t really that dark.


57 posted on 01/22/2016 1:48:32 PM PST by Williams (Dear God, please save us from the Democrats. And the Republicans.)
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To: Rebel_Ace

I am with you. Totally agree.


58 posted on 01/22/2016 1:49:36 PM PST by IC Ken
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To: Trumpinator

“If you don’t know where you are from on the star map, what is the point of me telling you where I am from?” -

Alien ship captain to Betty Hill during her abduction.


59 posted on 01/22/2016 1:51:06 PM PST by Williams (Dear God, please save us from the Democrats. And the Republicans.)
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To: Williams
Dark age wasn’t really that dark.

It was pretty dim. Technology did go backwards. That was not the first such example - Greece went through a dark age also. They lost a whole reading and writing system that had developed on Crete for example and had to start from scratch.

60 posted on 01/22/2016 1:51:56 PM PST by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
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