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Is Trump Punking Us?
The Universal Spectator ^ | 8-6-15 | Maggie

Posted on 01/13/2016 11:51:12 AM PST by Angels27

He is friends with the Clintons. He politically supported Hillary in the past. He has given the Clinton Foundation hundreds of thousands of dollars. He has been more liberal than conservative than the naked eye can see. Most of the liberal news sites and outlets are reporting on a WaPo article stating Bill Clinton and Donald Trump had a chat at the end of last spring. Could Bill Clinton have called Trump to make this GOP run in order to derail any other GOP candidate and pull votes away from a legit conservative (should he decide an independent run if his GOP nomination fails) in order to give Hillary an advantage? Stranger things have happened…

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To: Utah Binger; ryan71
"Donald Trump is first and foremost, a salesman."

You have something against salesmen?

Utah, Ryan is right, and I LOVE salesmen, I really do, I have literally written odes for underappreciated lowly "salesmen" heroes. I earn my living because of salesmen. Salesmen make the world go round far more than most people are aware.

A salesman pitches and deals for, say, a car. Or a line of brake pads. A good salesman creates a win-win situation. He not only benefits his own pocket, but the customer who gets a great car or great brake pads, as well as the companies that make the car and the brake pads.

The car buyer, the auto parts supplier buying the brake pads, aren't buying the great salesman. They're buy a car. They're buying brake pads.

Electing a great salesman and deal-maker to the White House only means that we've got a deal-maker salesman in the Oval Office, the place of government.

I'd rather have a limited government Constitutional conservative there. That would be Ted Cruz.

81 posted on 01/13/2016 2:42:56 PM PST by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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To: datura; Cold Heat; All
Ol' "Dad" Trump, the same age as Ted Cruz's father, has declared bankruptcy four times (and switched political parties three times) since 1991.

Those bankruptcies NECESSARILY mean that creditors, vendors, were left holding the bag and how they met their own payrolls, Trump didn't care. Rafael's ol' "Dad" Trump WELCHED on debts to save his own butt, and he did it "legally," exactly the way lawyers that Trump supporters here say they despise, advised him.

I've done my due diligence on Trump -- it's right to verify this stuff.

Sure, it's "good business" to declare bankruptcy, for the business declaring it. Not so good for the "schlonged" creditors.

Vote for putting a four-time bankrupt loser of a Republican moderate leftist in the White House at your own damned risk.

82 posted on 01/13/2016 3:13:51 PM PST by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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To: Angels27; Admin Moderator

News? I believe that WordPress is for bloggers.


83 posted on 01/13/2016 3:18:48 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Angels27
Have you ever heard of a "straw" candidate? When you have a weak frontrunner that can't reach 50 percent, often a third, or a fourth, or even a fifth candidate suddenly jumps into the race. If he has a name similar to that of the strongest opponent, or is at least a member of the same ethnic group, even better!

And the best straw of all is the one who doesn't even know he's a straw. -- Howie Carr

Howie Carr is a friend and fan of Trump, but I wonder if something like that isn't going on with Trump. That is to say, maybe somebody is flattering him and maneuvering him as part of a larger strategy. Trump may be sincere himself but somebody may be influencing and using him to achieve their own ends. All the more so if Hillary has stuff on him that will come out right before the election.

84 posted on 01/13/2016 3:26:41 PM PST by x
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To: Cold Heat

I did vote for Ross and he was very right about that giant sucking sound is your jobs going to Mexico. Course I really don’t trust any pol since it seems that a year into their DC time they suddenly sound and act like Dems. Must be something in the wine.


85 posted on 01/13/2016 3:40:11 PM PST by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: Finny

Trump did not declare personal bk he took over troubled companies and most likely declared chapter 11 bk which is a way to reorganize a co. into a position where it can become profitable again. It is not unlikely that the creditors received the bulk if not all of the money owed them. Every time I hear this tired line of 4 bks I know it is from someone who does not know what they are talking about or are on the Dem payroll. That could have been 13 instead of 11 I am not sure.


86 posted on 01/13/2016 3:56:29 PM PST by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman; datura; Cold Heat; All
Thank you for enlightening me, Founda, you are correct.

I just found and read the Forbes article (it can't really be linked, but it's "Fourth Time's a Charm: How Donald Trump Made Bankruptcy Work for Him, 4/29/11, and I see there is a big difference in bankruptcy types, and Chapt 11 is different. You're right -- I will strike the bankruptcy argument from my arsenal and correct when I see misused. Indebted to you.

:^)

Truth is what's right. There's truth enough of Trump's failings without making more of them up.

87 posted on 01/13/2016 4:14:06 PM PST by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman
I was madder than hell at you at the time, of course. Like the dolt I would continue to be for the next several decades, I dutifully voted Republican certainly at the tops of tickets, no matter what weak junk they threw at me, he or she was bound to be better than the lefty Democrat.

That ended in Nov. of 2012. It would have been four years earlier if not for Palin.

In retrospect, I thank you for your Perot vote. I'd do the same thing now. The plurality hurt Clinton and helped conservatives. And if Perot had actually won, he'd have been acceptable, if goofy.

Trump, on the other hand ... if he wins, he will embarrass at best everyone who voted for him. That's what it looks like to me when I see/read/hear him.

88 posted on 01/13/2016 4:27:34 PM PST by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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To: The Iceman Cometh

Who are you backing?


89 posted on 01/13/2016 6:50:55 PM PST by GOPJ (Trump's living rent-free in Jeb's head - Trump's wearing a robe and comfy slippers. FlickLives)
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To: mkjessup
Sarah Palin has spent time with Trump. Certainly enough time to get an initial 'read' on a person. If she knows him enough to say "thank God he's running," that's good enough for me. Trump/Cruz or Trump/Palin or Cruz vice versa would give my blood pressure a rest. November 8th can't come soon enough in this house. .

Has the Clinton Crime Family Money Laundering Quid Pro Quo Syndicate been indicted yet? Not yet? Why not? Plenty of indictable offenses, going back to 1994!

90 posted on 01/13/2016 9:56:18 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Art in Idaho

Trump is Trump. He’s probably not a strict ideological conservative or liberal .... He’s an American businessman. He’ll bring something very different to the table if elected — executive ability. He is not like any other pol we’ve seen and it’s tough to expect him to be. I think this is why some are so flummoxed by him.

If you study some of his earlier appearances, he’s amazingly consistent. He’s saying the same stuff he said almost 30 years ago .... He wears his hair the same way .... He doesn’t change.


91 posted on 01/14/2016 3:43:03 AM PST by LibsRJerks
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To: Angels27
To begin with Trump is/was apolitical. In the past he has simply bought politicians as he would absorb just another cost of doing business. Clintons no exception.He admitted it.
He has little or no respect for most politicians.
Currently, he is evolving,hope everyone can see that.
92 posted on 01/14/2016 4:22:17 AM PST by rodguy911 (Sarah Palin our secret weapon --Home of the free because of the brave.)
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